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Is OD too cheap for its' effect?

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249848.19 in reply to 249848.6
Date: 10/11/2013 12:29:36 AM
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And in his first season as a starter, night in and night out guarded by team's best defenders, his stats were:
25.9 PPG, 4.9 RB, 5.8 AST, 1.8 STL, 44% for 2, 37% for 3, 85% FT.

Compare it with Bryant at age of 23:
25.2 PGG, 5.5 RB, 5.5 AST, 1.5 STL, 46% for 2, 25% for 3, 83% FT

and you can see that so far they are equal. Not to mention Bryant has always been the cancer for his team, while Harden is not. But we'll have to wait for Harden's career to finish to be able to compare these two players correctly.




Not a very fair comparison. At age 23 Kobe had to share the ball with Shaq, basically Kobe was the 2nd offensive option. Harden was option 1 (and 2....and 3) on Houston last year. Comparing stats is the casual fan's way of comparing players. Kobe in his prime is hands down a better player than Harden last year, regardless of stats. Bryant the Cancer of his team? A true Kobe hater statement without much merit. Kobe has been the driving force for the team, he has put fierceness in players (like Gasol) to get them to elevate their game. Look at several guys who played Solid with Kobe, moved on to other teams to be mediocre. Guys like Walton, Odom, Ariza, just to name a few. If Kobe is a cancer I would like to order 3 plates of cancer please.

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249848.21 in reply to 249848.1
Date: 2/11/2014 4:08:34 PM
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Bruce Bowen, Trenton Hassell, and Keith Bogans didn't make shit. Even in the odd years when they could hit corner threes at a league average clip. Believe me, I've owned a lot of cheap OD heavy players and they hurt you on offense.

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Date: 2/12/2014 4:18:22 PM
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Believe me, I've owned a lot of cheap OD heavy players and they hurt you on offense.

That's exactly my point. You can put an OD specialist on a player who averages 25 pts/game. He will score 15 points, but your player will score 2. So there's still 13 points of difference. Unless you compensate on other positions, it's not worth it.

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249848.23 in reply to 249848.22
Date: 2/12/2014 4:57:59 PM
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And your player will probably go 1-10 from the field and turn the ball over four times, unless he has high passing, in which case he'll have a really high salary.

Last edited by 五毛党 at 2/12/2014 6:00:40 PM

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249848.27 in reply to 249848.26
Date: 2/12/2014 6:02:22 PM
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Usage rate doesn't normalize for skill in BB unless a player has high passing and experience. Even with high EXP, a high OD player who can't shoot or pass will be a turnover machine. Your team won't play 4-on-5 and if they do your team will suffer for it. Even if he has high HND/DRV, his salary will balloon as a PG and he'll just miss a ton of layups. You still get what you pay for.

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249848.29 in reply to 249848.28
Date: 2/13/2014 8:44:57 AM
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Every time I saw opponent with dominant perimeter scoring, I knew I had this.

I was thinking on how to elaborate my point of view as an answer to your previous post, but then I realized you answered yourself. I'm talking about highest levels of play, not some D.II perimeter-oriented team. I would like to see what is your OD 22 player able to do against IS 14 guards...

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