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283881.21 in reply to 283881.19
Date: 12/18/2016 1:34:06 PM
Delaware 87ers
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What I want is to be able to train my PF's and C's in inside skills and PG's and SG's in outside skills at the same time. Instead I can only do one. And being in a country with a large user base that means a lot of losing until a team builds its arena, then acquires talent, then spends 2 calendar years training only 3 players. The another 2 calendar years training another 3 players.

That may work in a league with less than 200 users but it doesn't work in leagues with large numbers of users.

I certainly can see and understand why you don't see a problem with the status quo. You've been in the Top Division for 27 straight seasons, and often in B3 as well. Good for you. However I strongly believe that many long time users don't understand the problems that new teams face to even be slightly competitive. Things are vastly different now for new teams than they were 8 years ago.

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283881.25 in reply to 283881.14
Date: 12/18/2016 3:14:49 PM
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Every suggestions I read since the start of this season have the same goal: make the game easier. In my opinion it's not only the BB decisions who explains the decreasing interest, but the suggestions made upstream by the users.
Can we make it harder but be able to train twice as many players? Joemaverick you are a very good manager, do you think you'd make it to D1 in Belgium with an entirely homegrown team?

Now the market is high, it's impossible, even the old and well-managed teams have to tank some seasons to rebuild a good roster (except in the micronations of course).
Come on, when you have a 35 million roster you have the equivalent of 35 million cash AND the cash you have in the bank. With prices going up the 35 million also goes up and that means that whoever has higher value rosters is the least affected by inflation.

When Darkonza rebuilds for the first time in his life I'll be happy to entertain the discussion though.


Last edited by Lemonshine at 12/18/2016 3:20:00 PM

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283881.26 in reply to 283881.22
Date: 12/18/2016 3:35:02 PM
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a manager as smart as you will have always an advantage if he has started the game before you. Always. Your suggestions will change the game, but won't help you.
You should know better than this. Because many of the top managers who are still in the game and won B3 and many titles in their nation emerged in the era of low prices and daytrading for a reason. This is the truth. We can name at least 4 relatively recent B3 winners for whom this is true.

So yeah, your statement is probably true now, but it wasn't necessarily the case 10 seasons ago. The changes that have been implemented make it a lot harder for new teams to catch up, because compared to 10-15 seasons ago a) you need a lot more cash to compete and b) it will take you ages to catch someone who has tens of millions invested in players just by generating new cash.

In a sense when players were dirt cheap bank accounts were almost irrelevant. What did you need 50 million back then when you could buy a very good team with 10? Cash and bank accounts became relevant when they decided that inflation was good for the economy and the long term prosperity of the game. It was obvious this would happen as much as it was obvious that the minute prices went up and you eliminated daytrading the users who had 50 million in the bank or tens of millions worth of players would benefit massively.

If a manager is smart it's easier to stay on top right now than it used to be when people could buy very good players on the cheap. At that time you could accumulate 30 million much faster, you could keep it in your bank without major penalties and 30 million would most definitely buy you a B3 contender (in fact B3 has been 'bought' with much less than $30 million as you surely know since you were in the competition when it happened and if you don't remember we can just ask Misagh)

Last edited by Lemonshine at 12/18/2016 4:12:39 PM

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283881.27 in reply to 283881.22
Date: 12/18/2016 5:06:16 PM
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My suggestion would change the game and help new users immensely. And yes, long-term managers would eventually face more competition. If they are as talented as you've been with your team then they will rise to the top as well.

However, if you just want to keep the status quo because it benefits your team and other long term managers the most, that's fine. Just don't expect everyone to agree with you.

The game will continue to hollow out and the number of new users sticking around will keep dropping because the mechanics of the game are broken.

And have been for some time.

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283881.28 in reply to 283881.8
Date: 12/19/2016 12:33:55 AM
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Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
and now they arent going for big bucks? lol
croatian 18 y/o MVP went for 8M so...


And think how you would feel if you paid that and he got so devalued by new guys coming in next season with way more skills all of a sudden

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