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From: Tivoli

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34098.19 in reply to 34098.18
Date: 6/1/2008 2:49:09 PM
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How many skills are used for the comparing? Just one??? Looks like that. If its true,
its just NOT VERY GOOD.
I´m sorry, I wanted this in BB, but this is just useless. Zero.

Please refrain from that sort of language.

Last edited by Superfly Guy at 6/1/2008 5:51:17 PM

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34098.20 in reply to 34098.18
Date: 6/1/2008 2:53:13 PM
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The way I read it, it only looks at the main skill for the price range. It looks at other skills to make some additional comments, but that's it.

My personal opinion is that it underestimates the value of some players. I have seen transfers between 2-2.5 million for similar players of mine. However, the tool says they should go for between 0.5-1.5 million.

It is just a tool, though, so it should be taken with a grain of salt. I think it has its usefulness. I just hope that people don't start to take it as gospel like the majority of HT users do with their transfer compare.

Run of the Mill Canadian Manager
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34098.22 in reply to 34098.21
Date: 6/1/2008 3:18:19 PM
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Actually, I stand corrected. I think it uses one skill to determine a pool of players. But within that pool, it looks at other skills to determine the $ range.

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34098.23 in reply to 34098.22
Date: 6/1/2008 3:28:13 PM
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Actually, I stand corrected. I think it uses one skill to determine a pool of players. But within that pool, it looks at other skills to determine the $ range.

Indeed. Otherwise my strong Inside defender would be compared to 1000s of other players. Now only with 12...

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34098.24 in reply to 34098.23
Date: 6/1/2008 3:41:23 PM
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What I would prefer would be additional filters on the transfer list search function. I would like to see potential added to the list of skills for starters. Finally, I would like to be able to search on more skills. Four skills is not very many.

Run of the Mill Canadian Manager
From: theap

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34098.25 in reply to 34098.21
Date: 6/1/2008 3:44:39 PM
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When I first saw the new transfer compare tool I thought the same thing. People are going to rely on those numbers way too much. No one will really pay more than the top figure in the range for someone because they will think to themselves that they can just go look for a similar player elsewhere for less money. Or even worse they will use these figures as a bidding guide alone.

I too am trying to sell players for 600k+ but their valuation says they are worth 250k max although I have seen similar players go for well over 800k lately. I think with the search tools available for the transfer list, it is easy enough for anyone to perform their own search and come up with their own estimate for what someone is worth. This is what I do and I just started this season. And that is what I've done to become decent (for a D IV team) pretty quickly. Now with this tool it will become much harder to buy/sell players to my advantage against the market.

From: dhoff

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34098.26 in reply to 34098.25
Date: 6/1/2008 4:17:39 PM
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Frankly, $650k for that guy is absurd.

Last edited by dhoff at 6/1/2008 4:22:35 PM

From: Jward
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34098.27 in reply to 34098.16
Date: 6/1/2008 4:32:00 PM
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I just don't understand the accuracy in it. When it gives $ 50 000 to $ 750 000 range for my 30 year old sub PG, it gives up to 250K for my way much better 29 year old starter SG (I paid 470K). I started to think that it just compares 1-2 skills and disregards most of them.

I also do not understand how this tool can be helpful in a very very inefficient transfer market. Not only there are not enough buyers/sellers and also players on the market to ensure that this could help. Other than that I believe this causes confusion when it gives a 500K difference between upper and lower bound.

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34098.28 in reply to 34098.27
Date: 6/1/2008 5:14:33 PM
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I dont think that this feature looks only at the main skill. Example: I have two guards, both have 10 JS and 9 JR, the first one has 20 years and 9 at OD and all other respectables, and he is given from 1.5mil-2.5mil... the other one has 19 years, 10 JS and 9 JR and he has lots of averages, but his value is 600k-1.2mil.
I think that the other skills are taken into account

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34098.29 in reply to 34098.24
Date: 6/1/2008 5:55:25 PM
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What I would prefer would be additional filters on the transfer list search function. I would like to see potential added to the list of skills for starters. Finally, I would like to be able to search on more skills. Four skills is not very many.


This has to be more helpful.

The reason people want help i would imagine is becaue they havent got time to sift thru the whole market.

This way they can get to the players they want and if the search is too specific they will have to do a little research to learn more about price.

As it stands you look at a player start off with a price range 1mil - 1.5mil then is he at the top of that band /bottom or middle? then what about height, stamina, maybe even GS then you have to value the secondaries yourself.

If someone cant work out how much the primaries are worth what chance have they got on evaluating secondaries?

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