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269164.191 in reply to 269164.190
Date: 7/14/2015 11:28:28 AM
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Well i haven't been extremely active as you'll can imagine rebuilding year or 2 doesn't require you to be checking in daily and when you're losing there's not much you can say in formus!

But i can't be a guy who post awards and power rankings and other fun things on the forum when winning and then completely ignore the forum when losing. So this is a quick chime in and hopefully sparks some end of season convos.

1st off with 2 games remaining i think we need to start thinking on and discussing who WE think is the league MVP. Also put together a league First & Second Team (position specific).

2nd and i usually leave this to my man Frosty but we have to have end of season power rankings before we head into the playoffs. Clearly its easy to look and see the teams making the playoffs but this season is interesting because there are quite a few tied records in playoff spots who's better team and WHY????

Lastly with the final 8 decided (no one can lose their playoff spot at this point) Is it a done deal that the promotion team will come from the great 8? and are they in a 2 team race? Is there anyone or any way the Big 8 can STEAL a promotion bid? Should be a fun playoff as the Big 8 top i believe can all beat each other. And the Great 8 final will be a special game worth watching (predicted to be Tigers vs Philly) but i am not fully ready to say Frosty or Space can't get hot and go on a run.

Lets spark some end of season convos!!!!!

And the Last Lastly.... Draft is coming up. I am interested to see or find out who's investing and who isn't???? we have 2 teams that are new teams that took over teams who no longer signed in. So i believe when you join BB you get 10 draft points and as new members they'll want to use those points but in reality do they understand how the draft works and will they make good ranking choices. Along with that Pearl City seems like a knowing manager i am sure he will have some draft hope. Both New York and Ballstar are active managers with high picks. And then lastly Walnut, Crosstown, and Bucs are ALL extremely competitive managers who surprisingly find themselves in draft position. To give some insight on the BucsBlue draft thought. Unless I have a top 5 pick i dont like spending money and points on the draft. Now if i have LOTS stored up from years of not using them then yes i will take a look at what we are working with. Last year with a final 3 pick i was able to land the highest salary rookie, and a REALLY strong prospect and that was with 0 scouting points invested. I am in a position now where best i pick is 8.... so I dont think spending points to find out our draft doesn't have 8 worthy players is dumb. I would rather stock pile and get to D2. finish with a top 5 draft pick in D2 and then have TONS of points to invest.... Anyone else draft thoughts or strategies???

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269164.192 in reply to 269164.191
Date: 7/14/2015 12:55:07 PM
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Great to hear from you! I will be looking at the draft, but I have only run the group demonstration so far. I haven't decided how I'm going to proceed scouting players, or what ideally I want to target. I might just look for a handful of "best availables".

I'm really starting to look at the stat lines on the group demonstration to see what attributes are likely good/acceptable/poor.

Edit...and you keep listing Hilton and I am constantly tempted to bid. If it hadn't been such a bad year at the gate for me, I'd probably buy him. But I'm trying to get over $2M in the bank, and I'm not going to get there until next season.

Last edited by squirrel at 7/14/2015 12:56:16 PM

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269164.193 in reply to 269164.191
Date: 7/14/2015 3:44:00 PM
homeboyz
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He's BACK!!!!!!! I do not invest in the draft. I think it is a waste of $$$$. I would rather spend on someone whose abilities I can see and know how I want to train them.

From: squirrel

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269164.195 in reply to 269164.193
Date: 7/14/2015 11:29:32 PM
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You can get all that info now Smitti. The 19 year olds are way better AND you can choose the skills you want so see.

2 sides of the same coin.

From: smitti

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269164.196 in reply to 269164.195
Date: 7/15/2015 6:39:48 AM
homeboyz
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I have not looked at the draft in years. Maybe I need to a look at again. Thanks for the heads up.

From: FrostyMc

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269164.197 in reply to 269164.196
Date: 7/15/2015 6:30:10 PM
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if you save up like 70 draft points, you can scout pretty much every single skill these guys have by scouting gather and shoot, extra pass, post up dribble, on ball defense and cut inside. all you won't know about them are their free throws and stamina, and it's for every player in the draft! then with the remaining few points, you can scout the potential of the top few players and rank them accordingly. saving 70 points for a season which you know you will be very bad and have a high pick can yield an extremely valuable draft. you can even get 2 standout, million dollar rookies. 2 mil for investing a few hundred thousand over several seasons is more than worth the investment. if you have a top 5 pick in the draft, you'd be extremely unlucky to not get the player on the top of your board, and you'll probably get 2 players you really want. you can get 24 scouting points per season by investing just 10k per week in scouting. that's 120k per season. over 3 seasons, that's 360k, and you'll have purchased 72 points. it's next to impossible to not make at least that much back in value with a high pick and knowing everything about the draft. just 1 outstanding rookie would be minimum 500k, with potential of 1mil+. just 1 rookie. if you get 2 valuable ones, all the better. that doesn't count the 2 drafts in which you didn't scout at all, and may have lucked into getting a player *cough bucsblue cough joe hilton cough*

edit: not to mention the perks to training your own draftees as it pertains to over-extension tax and merchandise sales.

Last edited by FrostyMc at 7/15/2015 6:41:20 PM

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269164.198 in reply to 269164.197
Date: 7/15/2015 6:51:12 PM
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here's an idea you can take or leave. spend 10k per week in scouting for 4 straight seasons, not spending a single point. during this time, you try to promote. you put your best foot forward all of these 4 seasons, still putting money into scouting. by the end of year 4, you'll either have promoted, or failed. if you promote, your first season in the higher division (season 5) will probably be a tough one and you'll struggle to win games by default. you'll have a high pick. drop 72 points in scouting and grab a great draftee. the following season, you may demote back to d3 (season 6). fire sale your team after the cup and demote again and get a high pick and spend all 72 points again. you'll now have 2 great drafted trainees in d4 with which to rebuild your franchise stronger than ever. as long as you've invested in arena expansion along the way, your franchise value should have almost doubled by the time you promote back to d3 (call it 2 seasons in d4. season 8). now, when you make your 4 year run in d3, you should be in a great position financially, much better than before, and your franchise value should remain competitive with the d2 teams so you can stay in that division and do some damage. it's not far from the nbba from there. just a couple lucky breaks and you're there.

From: smitti

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269164.199 in reply to 269164.198
Date: 7/15/2015 7:45:40 PM
homeboyz
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Interesting....

From: FrostyMc

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269164.200 in reply to 269164.199
Date: 7/16/2015 12:42:42 AM
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never forget that this game is a money-based game. you don't try to make your team better, you try to make your franchise more valuable, and more wins is a byproduct of that effort. everything is subject to cost-benefit analyses. players, their training, their transfer fees, their salaries, coaches, their salaries, how much winning is worth, or isn't worth, in terms of ticket sales, merchandise sales, promotion bonuses... training a player is just increasing his value, and thereby the franchise's value. all pure dollar amounts. the manager who best manipulates the dollar is the victor 95 times out of 100.

Last edited by FrostyMc at 7/16/2015 12:47:52 AM

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