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I fail to understand how someone with an extra cup round can be complaining to be at a disadvantage. You pick your battles, you manage your enthusiasm the way you want. If your priority was the B3 trophy you could build as much enth as you wanted. If you try to win everything and throw away your enth, it is your choice and maybe you end up winning nothing.

I'm not sure I understand where all the whining is coming from: you have a longer cup (which can boost your enthusiasm and finances) and you finished the league with a 15-7 record (which means you should have really been selective with your enthusiasm or you picked the wrong battles), if you focused on the B3 you really should have had an advantage...

Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/14/2014 5:58:12 AM

Day Trader (30 days) | Level 1 | 6/19/2009 | 10789 Teams Awarded.
Day Trader (10 days) | Level 2 | 6/19/2009 | 5954 Teams Awarded.
Day Trader (+25%) | Level 3 | 7/9/2009 | 5980 Teams Awarded.
Day Trader (+50%) | Level 4 | 7/9/2009 | 4639 Teams Awarded.
Day Trader (+75%) | Level 5 | 7/9/2009 | 3465 Teams Awarded.
Day Trader (+100%) | Level 6 | 7/9/2009 | 2787 Teams Awarded"

I'd be delighted to know how many of those teams are still in the game apart from you and how many have been banned by GMs.

I'm not saying swindling new managers who don't have a clue is illegal per se (although in some cases it certainly is), however I can see how people can find this practice distasteful and you're not helping your case by posting numbers which are likely inflated by actual cheaters who are no longer in the game...

Game developers reward for a quick and profitable trade
You may have a claim to them - not for me
I would prefer that such a trade was not possible (my new ideas on transfer market and a lot of discussion on the Polish forum)
However, if it is possible (and rewarded), I try to use

I'm not saying swindling new managers who don't have a clue is illegal per se

You are wrong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demand_curve

p.s. sorry for my english


Last edited by darkonza at 10/14/2014 8:05:28 AM

I fail to understand how someone with an extra cup round can be complaining to be at a disadvantage.

You should rather write that you don't know how to behave enthusiasm during the week. Extra cup round doesn't give any profit in B3. Enthusiasm from Thursday (after national cup) is reduced till Wednesday (before B3 match) to the same level as have teams which don't play in national cup.

Extra round in PO give huge enthusiasm advantage in B3 final.

If your priority was the B3 trophy you could build as much enth as you wanted. If you try to win everything and throw away your enth, it is your choice and maybe you end up winning nothing.

I didn't threw away enth. I played Tie all time to have maksimum enth in B3 games. Luckily it was enough to win national cup and I got the pass to play in B3 in the next year. As a result of saving enth on B3 games, I have 15-7 record...but I reach B3 final. The problem is I didn't get to Polish final league and I didn't have opportunity to bulit enth just before B3 final match. In any other league in the world I would play in the finals. Polish national league is simply too strong. We are not able to play tie and win all matches (especially away).

Superligota no had to save the enthusiasm to B3. He focused on the league and had the best record. I had to choose between the league and B3 and finally it wasn't enough to reach league finals and extra chance to bulit enth before B3 final. This is what I mean.

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Enthusiasm from Thursday (after national cup) is reduced till Wednesday (before B3 match) to the same level as have teams which don't play in national cup.

Dude, you have 1 extra round in which you can play PON. In most other countries you have a scrimmage and the scrimmage is the same as playing POCT. However small it is an advantage being a game you can PON just the week before the B3 final.

The problem is I didn't get to Polish final league and I didn't have opportunity to bulit enth just before B3 final match. In any other league in the world I would play in the finals. Polish national league is simply too strong. We are not able to play tie and win all matches (especially away).

I understand what you're saying, but someone who can put up these ratings (75285878) should only blame himself. Now that's like 25 bbstats higher than any other match you've had this season, but with anything remotely close to those ratings you get into the finals in Poland, in China and anywhere else. I have no idea whether you crunched or TIEd the semifinal, but there is also the fact that you were carrying a 1.1 million roster at that point, while Superligota was on 850k by the look of it.

I'm not saying swindling new managers who don't have a clue is illegal per se

You are wrong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demand_curve

I was implying it would be illegal if you found some kind of agreement with unaware (or helping) managers in order to profit from intra-day trading or even just get the achievements. This scenario is possible and surely people got banned for it.

Considering you are still around, it's very likely this was not the case, but I'm sure you understand why other managers may find it distasteful or suspicious.

I can't agree more with that : you can't really blame directly Darkonza even if you don't appreciate this method. BB encourage it with objectives and GMs tolerate it (I discussed it a lot with them, nothing will change at the moment).

What is really ok is to praise the merits of the Serbian manager who managed to beat all these evil polish managers without using this method :D

Clearly I was trying to explain why someone may not appreciate this method. Personally I don't really care. I just find it amusing that he felt compelled to defend himself by posting the number of people who got the achievement, when it's very possible that part of the people who got those achievements are either gone or banned, which is exactly the reason why others find it distasteful or suspicious.


Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/14/2014 10:48:56 AM

I can't agree more with that : you can't really blame directly Darkonza even if you don't appreciate this method. BB encourage it with objectives and GMs tolerate it (I discussed it a lot with them, nothing will change at the moment).

This metod is only about 500k per season extra (minus salary, sales tax)
it is a lot?
One good transfer, one good transfer gives more!
I know it irritates, that the number of transfers,
I was irritated too, so I started doing the same thing and now is ok:)

What is really ok is to praise the merits of the Serbian manager who managed to beat all these evil polish managers without using this method

What what what?
I play in B3 many seasons max 850k salary!
In this season max salary one player is <120k!
Other teams have salaries of more than a million!
Have players with salaries over 200k!

I could tell: Let me win without buying mutants-player. I'm not saying that because it's not my thing.
You do not tell me what I should do in the transfer market

p.s. In this season I lost tournement, I loss PO, because the Polish league is so strong. These are huge financial losses. Trade 18-year-olds does not compensate for these losses.The polish league is like hell



Last edited by darkonza at 10/14/2014 10:53:40 AM

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