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i dont get what everyone is freaking about :(

where talking about 10% of training going to a random skill

so unless that skills sub level is insanely high and almost about to pop you are not going to see a change.

we all ready pay salary for sub levels so where talking about a very minimal rise in any salary due to a unwanted pop.

realistically the only issue is that training will be 10% slower in the areas we want to train, this will most likely cause an imbalance in national teams as players will take longer to catch up to the old style trained players.

so i expect to see older players in national teams sticking around longer , making it harder for new comers to break into there nationals teams.

The first part is true, but the second part I doubt. I guess that 90% of current NT players in most countries are not being trained for fear of further blow up in their salary.

Which we all know is silly if the fear is based on cross-training. Salaries take sub-levels into account so a blow-up from cross-training would actually be nothing more than a slight sniffle up.

i think he meant under the old system players where not really pushing there guys to there full extent due to salary rises

I don't know yet if cross training is good or bad, but I know for sure that it's ugly.
The beauty of BB is how it tries to reproduce reality. This cross training feature... it has no connection to reality at all.
In real life, how could a guard get better at blocking while training his FTs?

Ugly.

lol...
Training is not realistic at all without crosstraining or with crosstraining...and there are more things that are unrealistic...
But lets be real there,people dont really care whether it is realistic or not..but realism is good thing to complain on and we know how people love to complain about everything,even the things they dont care about..

Of course BB is far from representing reality perfectly, and Training in particular, but Cross Training makes it definitely more unrealistic...
I'm sure you know better than myself what I care about, but believe me... I do care about BB being as realistic as possible, and I hardly ever complain about things, so if I'm complaining now it's definitely not at random.



Last edited by Stavrogin at 8/3/2011 7:18:28 AM

Well I am glad ober cross-training, that it makes this more realistic!:-) There are los of skills that never get chosen to be trained, but now there is a chance of players getting better in every skill at least, as opposite to 20 in something and 0 in something.

I don't know yet if cross training is good or bad, but I know for sure that it's ugly.
The beauty of BB is how it tries to reproduce reality. This cross training feature... it has no connection to reality at all.
In real life, how could a guard get better at blocking while training his FTs?

Ugly.

you improve while playing, and you improve in different directions and also not so planned. In realityy i think every player should have some cross training, as long he don't is in vacation.

And you vary also drills in your training, play some pickup games etc.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 8/3/2011 7:37:58 AM

You are right, I didn't think about that... You practice while playing so cross-training is more realistic.
I stand corrected.
Thanks!

Frankly, I've always thought training in BB is just plain weird. This is one step in the right direction.

Why is it weird? Because you can have a 18 year old guard on your team, and he can go to practice every day, play in games every week, and do this for years and years and years, and still never get any better at playing basketball because the coaches are over talking to the big men. That poor guard lives, sleeps and works at playing basketball for a professional team, and never ever gets any better as a basketball player.

This seems to be a step in the right direction. At least now the portion of the team you are talking to does get some broader skill increases. Now, even if the coaches are talking to the big guys about rebounding every day, day after day, their passing might actually get better from playing all the basketball that they are playing. Its still weird, since the guards won't ever increase. But at least the big guys now can occaisionally improve their jump shot or passing without having to do something totally strange like play them at PG or SG or something.

Me, I'd love to see a training system more like real-life. ....
1) Every players gets some training every week just by being on the squad and being in practice and watching films and the like.
2) Managers have one set of input by controlling playing time. Players that play get extra training over players that don't.
3) Managers have another set of input by controlling the focus of the coaching staff. Maybe a certain number of points to spread around or concentrate. If you want all the coaches working with one big guy prospect on his rebounding, then that area of training gets a boost. Or, you could have your coaches working with every one on the team on FT. However the manager wants to spread around those 'focus' points.

Meanwhile, to me, the training system is just plain weird, and I'm not sure I see the value of a new training system over an older weird training system. Both are strange, and its just a matter of figuring out how to best use the weird training system as best you can.

Strategy-wise, I'm curious if this new change might put some more value in the broader trainings of the whole team. The focus of the training would still increase painfully slowly in such a case. But, would you get more of the random pops spread around the team that would help make up for it?