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I think this is a very interesting topic (although glass is probably monopolizing it too much). I don't agree with glass. Of course if you build something and sell it, than you'll have money to buy something else of the same value. I don't know anything in life that doesn't follow this rule. But yet, he has a point. BB economics is very distorted right know! And, for me, the main reason is player wages, which are really outrageous in many cases. What happens next? Player transfer fees go down, and you get a crazy system where no one wants to buy the best players in the game.
For me, it is very demotivating to buy a very promising player and after several seasons of training being forced to sell a much stronger player for half the price. I had one case that I invested 1,7M (my personal record) in a promising player, made him a national team player, and had to sell him (couldn't afford his salary any more) for 1,2M, despite having trained him for 5 or so seasons. I believe everyone must have something like this.
For me, it is very strange to watch how people spend their money right now. Why would anyone spend 1M in any 19/20 year old trainee, if I can buy a 25-26 y o player that is already what the trainee can be at 25 if properly trained? Why bother?

For me, there are a number of reasons why this happens:
1- not enough teams with the money to buy top players, or pay their salaries
2- Taxes put in place recently worsened the problem. In fact, we should be injecting money in the economy!
3- The salary excess tax is blind and penalizes teams that are trying to have healthy economies, but are through results problems. Last season, i descended from NL to 2nd division. I sold my best players and bought others, spending in wages the same thing as in the season i was promoted - and i had more supporters, so expected more income. What happened? I got terrible fan spirit, got lousy attendences for several weeks and on top of that was penalized again through this stupid tax. I don't even understand what the f**k is it good for. I believe that a lot of teams, when they go through bad results get penalized again this way, which is very unfair. Also, takes a lot of money out of the game
4- Free players. Buying them gets all the transfer money out of the system, which should be circulating the economy.

I have some suggestions to overcome this problem:
1- The salary should be influenced by the transfer fee achieved. There should be a fixed minimum wage for the player, and a variable part according to how much someone was willing to pay for the player
2- We should raise the income of teams in the 1 divison (a little) and especially on the 2nd division(a lot!). This would make the demand for top players and avoid seeing top players tranfered next to nothing or even sacked
3- Limiting free players transfers - in this way avoiding money getting out of the economy.

I think it would be healthy for the game that the best players were, once again, the more desired, and teams should battle to get them, instead of just trying to get rid of their salaries. I think these proposals would benefit the game


PS: there are other problems in this game, but this post is far too big already. Maybe next time

And, for me, the main reason is player wages, which are really outrageous in many cases. What happens next? Player transfer fees go down, and you get a crazy system where no one wants to buy the best players in the game.

On the other hand, if the wages go down, then people will just train those players even further (thanks to the NT) and the wages would keep going up anyhow.

This will be one of the few times I will ever say that Hattrick did something better than BB did, but their solution of adding additional skill drops for high-skilled players and slowing training down more based on the skill level (boosting lower skills / slowing down high level skills a lot) was the correct solution to the problem. As bad as the wage-based solutions are intended to be (and remember when guys were over 400k salaries?), people still keep on churning out super high salary players because of the NT/U21 game. If you don't want the game being littered with ten times more 18/18/18/8 big men than there are people who could reasonably justify paying those salaries, make it harder to train those guys rather than just giving people an incentive to create even more.

3- The salary excess tax is blind and penalizes teams that are trying to have healthy economies, but are through results problems. Last season, i descended from NL to 2nd division. I sold my best players and bought others, spending in wages the same thing as in the season i was promoted - and i had more supporters, so expected more income. What happened? I got terrible fan spirit, got lousy attendences for several weeks and on top of that was penalized again through this stupid tax. I don't even understand what the f**k is it good for. I believe that a lot of teams, when they go through bad results get penalized again this way, which is very unfair. Also, takes a lot of money out of the game

This tax is valid only if you are overspending - how that can be called as healthy economics? This is managerial game and one part is managing your incomes and outcomes.

Without this tax some teams could "buy championships" with those cheap national team players, which would be all too easy solution. Prices for those NT players with enormous salary has been low way before this tax.

Without this tax some teams could "buy championships" with those cheap national team players, which would be all too easy solution.


If this is your wrong. If a manager buy 5, 18 yrs and build them and win 5 league title then another and another and another and another every year. He has still bought a championship?

Its a manager's game your suppose to buy the championship through your wages, training is a option ,not by all mean for all ways . In small you just said the guys and great teams of the past of bb are not legit champions. they are asterik.

Training don't win champions for everybody on BB. Who care if they have 5 nt players and bought them, theres 5 players that never made NT that are better on the game, I had guy in my league with 2 of them. Basketball is not mean to be fair.

Adapt . its not about adapting. it about taking away a hand. Everyone invested In that hand and way of play. I invested milions in that hand. When did BB give me a dime of my investment back? I invested at my own risk. Some would call that a sham to switch a man investment to another way..

How would you like someone to take away your million dollar investment and tell you build another and adapt. Then you sell that investment at a lost and never recoup what you lost in product. I had salary to hold my player, then all the dumb taxes. My ball club had the salary to hold now all of sudden because such and such league is important and I haven't trained them, I cant have it, I already done damn well bought them.. I bought those player through hand work and grind, honestly play..

Its wrong and it a under cut cheap way to cheat others out a good game because the skill a manager lack. Because they don't know how to do financial reconstruction of their ball clubs. Trianing is to afford is bull.. who care if a manager has 5 nt player. There are 5 player that never made a nt would can beat them in a game.

Not all manager should playing the training game. If it about a building team in many forms then why take away that hand to do so. Did a lot not earn the money honestly. Its our team if we have the bank account then how is it not fair to the guy who train 18 yr to beast and make million selling him. its even the odds versus him. Its suppose to be free market.! free enterprise. Not seller market for trainers. It supply and demand for tactics and team style of play, not demand huge prices from what you trained.. last part is the case then who is going to buy that beast. why I cant that beast.? oh because of low league and I haven't trained him. want to win right now. Why take away that hand to win right now. MY point. Adapting is winning right now for me ,not waiting to win tommarrow. If your sick you don't wait for medince 2 weeks from now at the doctors. You want them right now, you invested in the medical insurance and you want your health better that day . you will how can get better right

What about win right now !!.. A small cold shouldn't be treated a colon cancer surgery. waiting to get well, My point

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 9/25/2014 7:42:38 PM

you cannot spend more than you earn without paying taxes_



My reply-For a sports team you will always spend more than you earned to run the team. In real life you spend more than you earn, think about all the money some give you that you didn't work for? You didn't pay taxes on that money given to you by free will. Just because you over spent for a player don't mean you don't have money to afford him. If this was the case no manager could buy a player on BB.. because no team finances are the same .season to season this why their is bank account to hold the cost. why tax some bank account to hold a cost. they already paid bidding then salary? then money out the bank account. 3payments, a tax is the 4th

I feel like this instead of add sum dumb tax. why not make it so a team cant have 5 nt players. 1-2 max. Why didn't they do that.? The economy is not is good today. Far from it... The reward is the same if you bought or trained for it. why would some value a person who trained for something than a person who good at putting things together and win. The title is still the same goal. If someone has the money and the other has the skill who has the advantage.?? The skill full will always has have the advantage. The one who can spend and build to even the odds is the deal breaker. If none is there to out spend him. How can you beat him? MY point.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 9/25/2014 8:19:35 PM

I know why it's dying. Because of stupid little things that are not yet fixed but instead million new mostly useless features are introduced. Like utopia, like "achievements" which you'll look at once in million seasons, not solving overpowered look inside with that ridiculous and useless tactic prediction, league table not updated for 6-7 hours after the game, fan survey STILL broken (yea, it is) etc.

Should I mention that training is late - AGAIN? For the fking 1435614631346. time....