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26712.199 in reply to 26712.198
Date: 11/14/2009 2:36:10 PM
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You also had the Let Them Play, which makes the coach completely disregard fouls when making subs, a setting which makes the coach substitute less often.


That's what I am telling you.

Also, as it became apparent recently, slow-pace tactics do conserve energy -- and you've chosen two of them.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 11/14/2009 2:37:43 PM

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Date: 11/14/2009 2:45:17 PM
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None of my players had foul trouble all match long, so it is irrelevant whether I had Let Them Play or Sit Them, isn't it.

I know they do conserve energy, but why do they do it that much?

EDIT: I will try set the very same line-up in my next PL match and will see the result.

Last edited by PunkFloid at 11/14/2009 2:47:01 PM

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Date: 11/14/2009 2:51:42 PM
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None of my players had foul trouble all match long, so it is irrelevant whether I had Let Them Play or Sit Them, isn't it.

My observation is that Let Them Play results in less subs regardless of foul trouble. My guess is that in certain situations, if the coach cares about fouls, he might pull a certain player earlier in order for him _not_ to pick up fouls (in addition to immediately benching them when they pick up a foul).

For example, the coach will pull your starter with 2 fouls in the middle of the second quarter, so that he doesn't pick up his third (since picking up a third results in benching him immediately until the middle of the third quarter, for example). Let Them Play seems to completely ignore these considerations.

I have never really done any testing with this, so the evidence is anecdotal.

I know they do conserve energy, but what do they do it that much?

No idea, up to very recently I thought they didn't at all.

Have in mind that players regenerate energy in timeouts and at half-time.

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26712.204 in reply to 26712.202
Date: 11/20/2009 4:15:22 PM
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It's just karma.

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26712.206 in reply to 26712.205
Date: 12/3/2009 3:27:26 PM
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It must be (2). The game engine may be quite weird when a player that's really crappy for a position has a decent alternative somewhere in the lineup -- which is mostly a direct consequence of the fact that the AI coach can never be completely eliminated from making decisions on lineups and substitutions.

Maybe this should be amended to reflect the new possibility for alternative defensive assignments, so that the changes work as intended and allow people to train off skills more efficiently.

In any case, I don't think (1) is an issue at all (or shouldn't be), and no other instances of this bug have ever been reported.

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26712.207 in reply to 26712.11
Date: 12/4/2009 7:51:43 AM
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i had the same problem yesterday.i dont think it was done intentionaly.it is just a machine dealing with with all these teams and players and it is not flauless.

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26712.208 in reply to 26712.205
Date: 12/4/2009 8:52:35 PM
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I believe this is an old bug that has been brought up a few times and thus reason number 2. The primary workaround for this is to list the crappy pg as both starter and backup with the good player as a reserve (of course not using a good player as a pg would be the best alternative).

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26712.209 in reply to 26712.205
Date: 12/8/2009 9:42:01 PM
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Did you play SFDC?

Even if he was a really weak starter, he should still have started and played the majority of the minutes (barring blowout, foul-out, injury, etc..)

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