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12303.2 in reply to 12303.1
Date: 1/12/2008 6:11:30 PM
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long post - short answer!

great!

At the moment the CT is like having a joker in your hand.... only when CT plays CT is it interesting...

your suggestion gives a more meaningful and long term use rather than looking thu fixtures and saying.. right lose lose win win must win dont mind losing.... each game should be a winnable game either by tactics, skill and enthusiasm... if it continues as it is then the enthusiasm barometer can trump the managers better tactics and players if he has previously CT'd a game....

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12303.4 in reply to 12303.1
Date: 1/13/2008 5:26:40 PM
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So '10' is the new '5' ?


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12303.5 in reply to 12303.4
Date: 1/13/2008 7:03:45 PM
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There'd be no TIE to increase enthusiasm upward. Enthusiasm stays at 10 until you CT (which, as proposed, had a noticeably lower effect on the game and the drop in enthusiasm).

Kind of like how a team starts the beginning of the season. Clean slate, recharged and with fresh goals for the season ahead. Over the season pushing too hard (CT'ing too much), losing, etc, wear down the team.

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
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12303.6 in reply to 12303.1
Date: 1/14/2008 12:31:51 AM
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Flawless in my opinion.

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12303.7 in reply to 12303.1
Date: 1/14/2008 4:14:48 AM
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This is something I really think would benefit the game.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
From: CrazyEye

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12303.8 in reply to 12303.1
Date: 1/14/2008 11:42:38 AM
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I don't like, because to TI games are an tactically element of the game, maybe you compensate this in your proposal with ct every second game but i like it so like it is today.

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12303.9 in reply to 12303.5
Date: 1/14/2008 4:30:03 PM
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There'd be no TIE to increase enthusiasm upward. Enthusiasm stays at 10 until you CT (which, as proposed, had a noticeably lower effect on the game and the drop in enthusiasm).

Kind of like how a team starts the beginning of the season. Clean slate, recharged and with fresh goals for the season ahead. Over the season pushing too hard (CT'ing too much), losing, etc, wear down the team.


Ah, so. I missed that part.

On OK change, but until CT becomes uncertain, it rates only a shrug from me.

You should not be certain that CT will work. Perhaps a one-third chance your team would not get the benefit, but you still take the enthusiasm drop. That would force coaches to really think about using up this resource.


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12303.11 in reply to 12303.9
Date: 1/14/2008 5:02:13 PM
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I guess I'm unsure of your position. Disregarding the recommendation, you prefer to keep enthusiasm as it is or not have any TIE/CT enthusiasm at all? Basically, which end of the spectrum of this debate are you?

I agree that CT shouldn't provide a certain result, that's why I brought this idea up. As proposed, the effect of CT on the game would be lessened, along with the resulting drop in enthusiasm due to CT'ing. CT would be a nice little boost to get your team up for the big game, but not the "nuclear" option that it is today (even with the recent lowering of effect on TIE, and CT, it's still a pretty big effect).

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
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12303.12 in reply to 12303.11
Date: 1/14/2008 7:45:56 PM
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Everybody talks about the 'added strategy' of TIE/CT but in reality the collusion aspect between friends makes this a joke. There is no strategy when two teams decide to TIE before a game so they can gain an edge on the other teams in the league.

There fore I would prefer no enthusiasm at all. However, I doubt very much that will happen, so a change is necessary that does at least two things:

1) Eliminates the opportunity for collusion;
2) Makes the effect of CT uncertain. By that I mean a coach can't count on the benefit (that is, higher ratings for one game) but he CAN count on his team's enthusiasm level dropping.


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