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My suggestion is to place fines on teams that dont have players of their own nationality. The reason for this is because i see many teams with very few, if any, players of their own nationality.

they already get an indirect fine, because they earn noticeable less through merchandise.


I think when you raise those effect with a penalty or more merchandise difference, it will be especially chaotic in the phase right after the change and in small and young countrys where competive player of the own nationality are rare and the draft won't give you that much intresting talent(you need a high potential for playing div. 1 or 2, so the amount of usable draftee is higher in country with more division because you could also use the Star player as solid/good player in the bottom divisions)

I don't like the idea for a few reasons:
1. There isn't one way to play this game, there are many ways to success, so we should not be penalising teams if they want to use foreign players.

2. This will drastically affect smaller countries that aren't able to buy as many players of their own nationality.

3. There is already a bonus in merchandise for having players of your own nationality, no need to also implement a fine.

4. This will completely destroy the market as everybody rushes to sell their foreign players.

I suggest we put a penalty on teams that have no foreign players on their rosters.

You guys brought up some very good points

I believe that the salary for non-national players is slightly higher, the rationale being that it takes more money to get a person to move away from their home. Maybe someone can confirm this.

Also, as mentioned above, there is more cash from merchandise for national players.

Basketball is an international game now. Just take a look the roster of any league in the world and I think you'll find, just like in BB, the higher the league, the more likely there will be players from other countries filling the rosters, particularly as the starters.

Well even if they put this into effect everybody could just purchase a 1k salary nobody from their own country and have him sit on the bench and play scrimmages to avoid the fine.

I believe that the salary for non-national players is slightly higher, the rationale being that it takes more money to get a person to move away from their home. Maybe someone can confirm this.

I've never seen any evidence of this.

I believe that the salary for non-national players is slightly higher, the rationale being that it takes more money to get a person to move away from their home. Maybe someone can confirm this.

Obviously this isn't true for BB. If I bid 280k for a foreign player and then someone from that country outbids me the price isnt altered. I suppose you meant in RL basketball which I could see as a player like Yao Ming would have to pay for translators/extra staff to help him acclimate to life in the US or like Stephon Marbury who is doing the opposite currently. Are you suggesting that because of this, it makes sense for foreign players to cost a little more in BB??

I believe that the salary for non-national players is slightly higher, the rationale being that it takes more money to get a person to move away from their home. Maybe someone can confirm this.

Obviously this isn't true for BB. If I bid 280k for a foreign player and then someone from that country outbids me the price isnt altered. I suppose you meant in RL basketball which I could see as a player like Yao Ming would have to pay for translators/extra staff to help him acclimate to life in the US or like Stephon Marbury who is doing the opposite currently. Are you suggesting that because of this, it makes sense for foreign players to cost a little more in BB??

But in re<ality this won't happen too, or at least not much ;) Ming get paid by value he have on the court, and that would be maybe less as long he lacks with the language etc. - and i am quite sure that he wants to go to america and gets also lot more money then at home because NBA >> CBA. maybe you would have this when, the national and the foreign league are the same strength and a trainer in the foreign leagues wants his dream player from the other one, but in this case even a national agent could get good money for his player because he know Coach X wants him and nobody else.

In Europe lots of league have rules, that you should have X player of their own nationality or out of the EU in the teams(like initially suggested). This give the national or european players extra value, because you could easily get an solid player but if the solid player should come from germany you don't have many choiches to ask and the player/agents know that ;)

I looked back into this since it was a while since this was a raging issue (which is why I was looking for confirmation in my post. Here's a link to a BB-Charles post from over a year ago on this topic:

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This explains why I had stuck in my head that salaries were higher for foreigners in addition to the increased merchandise sales for national players, while it's only the merchandising change that actually happened.

Anyway, I really don't think BB will model itself on European models that set a ceiling on the number of foreign players. Teams from countries with fewer leagues will complain that they are at a disadvantage compared to the countries with more leagues (like Italia, USA, Espana, etc.) since they would have a much smaller pool of free agents to choose from to fill out their rosters, and that would drive up the the transfer costs locally for them. (I personally don't have a problem with that based on the way the BB economy is structured, but that's a discussion for a different thread, and a conversation that's happened in many many posts in the past.) Furthermore, I believe that the BB transfer market philosophy is one that prefers as open an market as possible, but that's not really for me to say.

There is another online manager basketball game that only allows you to roster 5 foreign players for any match. This gives a massive advantahe to players from large nations whose players are as a result much much cheaper than similar players from smaller nations. When you start this is brutal!