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I'm new to BB (placed mid-season in Div IV), and right now your team makes as much as mine does, and I'm a last place team. I expect you to make more than I do once you climb into Div IV. I don't have an estimate regarding how much.

As far as players, it's a mixed bag. There's a top team in my league with a $175K Center who is crazy good, a couple $40K guards, and a $27K C who plays PF. On the flipside, my nemesis team has a very balanced team of players in the $15K -$20K range, and he is making the playoffs. To answer your question specifically, there are lots of players making $10K starting in my league. Heck, there are players getting lots of minutes in my league making $6-$10K a week. I suppose this does all depend on the specific league you are joining, though. Best of luck!

Here's our league's average weekly economy stats:

Player Salaries: $ 101 087 Attendance: $ 100 880
Staff Salaries: $ 55 021 Merchandise: $ 19 377
Scouting: $ 7 857 TV Contract: $ 67 151
Total: $ 163 965 Total: $ 187 408
League Average Net Income: $ 23 443

I spent most of the season at ~80K total player salary, and currently I'm leading my conference. But of course you know that salary is not a great metric for determining player performance. But just about all of my players were 7-10K weekly salary. And they were fine. And three of those guys were my main trainees.

If you're set to promote, I'd suggest getting ready to put a good chunk of that cash reserve into your arena. Then, after the playoff eligibility deadline, I would look to pick up some cheap veterans, especially for depth.

Note you'll also receive a 200K promotion bonus when the season turns over. I put my entire bonus into my arena, and and glad I did.

Thanks for the info. I think someone told me one time that my attendance dollars would double and that my merchandise would go up to about $22K.

I fully expect to make most of my team today bench players or sell them off this off-season, once I have for sure promoted, and buy much better players for the future. I won't be able to have a team that is good enough to 'make the playoffs', my competitive nature will make me spend all of my money trying to catch up to #1, and I'll go into next season with about $1.3M with what I have now, what I'll make the rest of this season including the playoffs, and the promotion bonus. If I sell off a couple of my late-20s veterans I should be able to add a couple hundred grand to that.

Again, thanks for the info.

Your arena is tiny.. spend some money upgrading that before you promote so you can maximise your income, as you are already selling out each game. Maybe before this season finishes, do 2 x 500 bleacher upgrades..

If you promote you will get a bonus to attendance for the first half of next season, the best way to capitalize on that is have a few extra seats... You wont be able to compete financially with other teams in div 4 with such a tiny arena.

Your arena is tiny.. spend some money upgrading that before you promote so you can maximise your income, as you are already selling out each game. Maybe before this season finishes, do 2 x 500 bleacher upgrades..

If you promote you will get a bonus to attendance for the first half of next season, the best way to capitalize on that is have a few extra seats... You wont be able to compete financially with other teams in div 4 with such a tiny arena.

Agree 100%

My advise is to play cool. Star playing some games, scout your rivals very closely (www.buzzer-manager.com is a great tool and helps setting yourlineup and analyze rivals) and don't, don't don't buy new players all of a sudden. There are very competetive leagues and others not so. Patience is the key here.

And try to avoid deficit, that would hurt you and, if you need to waste money for an emergency (aka injury of a star) you'll be complicated.

Scouting is worthless as you will get last pick , and the draft in BB is almost like a lottery, I wouldnt waste money on that instead put it in to my arena

In a league with nearly all bots, I should still get a good player. Not to mention, the teams that are not bots never play scrimmages, never buy players off the TL, so I doubt they are scouting players and drafting players trying to build them up. I could literally be the ONLY team in my league that has scouted a player.

But I do agree with you, the scouting process appears to be a waste of money for higher teams. I didn't invest in scoutiung points the first half of the season because of it. Now I'm just hoping to find one good player out of it.

Does it cost the same to build seats in IV as it does in V?

In other words, should I rush to build now before I promote?

I knew I would need a bigger arena once I moved up, but I've not been selling out until the last three home games, so I was in no rush to do it before.

seats always cost the same, regardless of league.. but remember, they take time to build, so if you do it now they are ready for the start of next season...

you have the cash to do it, so why not... the quicker you do it, the quicker you can start getting a return on your investment.. The money in your account doesnt accrue interest, so i would say it is costing you money by not investing now.

Again, i suggest, do 500 bleachers at a time... by the time the new season rolls around, you will have 1000-1500 new seats which will be worth an extra $9000-$13,500 per home game at your current prices, then focus on some lower tier. take a look around some US div 4 leagues and check out there arenas, and try to model on that.. also check their prices and copy those.. i think ur prices are to low.

here is how mine finances compared with league average. I think you can expect huge proffit too if u keep winning atleast half your games.

Savaitės finansai
Išlaidos Pajamos
Žaidėjų algos: $ 60 292 Lankomumas: $ 125 014
Personalo algos: $ 29 711 Prekių pelnas: $ 24 158
Talentų paieška: $ 10 000 TV kontraktas: $ 66 376
Viso: $ 100 003 Viso: $ 215 548
Savaitės grynasis pelnas: $ 115 545
Paskutinės savaitės lygos vidurkiai
Išlaidos Pajamos
Žaidėjų algos: $ 103 557 Lankomumas: $ 86 346
Personalo algos: $ 37 540 Prekių pelnas: $ 18 821
Talentų paieška: $ 5 000 TV kontraktas: $ 66 376
Viso: $ 146 097 Viso: $ 171 543
Lygos vidutinis pelnas: $ 25 446

Like already noted, there's no change to arena seat pricing in D4. But also, there's no maintenance cost for your arena. So in many respects, it's better to start early with the expansion, so that you can immediately start reaping the benefits.

Also, there's the promotion bonus to attendance, which lasts ~1/2 or slightly more of the season. Now, if you keep winning, it's not a big deal, because you'll keep filling your arena. But it's possible that you'll have consecutive home games during the first intraconference portion of the schedule, and then one less during the second part, at the end of the season. In that case, you'll certainly want to have already expanded your arena. Honestly, if you have 600K already right now, I'd put 300K of that into the arena, with something like 750 bleachers and 200 lower tier. That'll leave you money to pick up some veterans at decent prices after the playoff deadline comes. Next season when you're in D4, you can see how your team is doing, and either pick up some more players if you're stuggling, or plow the rest into the arena.

One suggestion is to check the 'attendance helper' under the 'team tools' after you log into the USA database (bb-usa.host22.com). Entering the number of seats you have (or will build) and switching to D4, you can get a decent idea of the relationship between seat prices and attendance. I'd suggest going a bit over the recommended ideal price, because that doesn't adequately account for the promotion bonus. That will help you reap more revenue from your arena.