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All player who get minutes would get some training. All 48s getting at least team training.

Oops, still that illogical link to minutes. Thumbs down.

In this case I think it would be nice to have an 'exceptions' option ...

It's always a bad sign when a suggestion needs exceptions, corrections, etc. before the post is even complete.

I know. My point remains. If you have to make exceptions, your own system doesn't do what you want it to do.

But most of all the problem is that you still require minutes. That is a fundamental flaw in the current training system, and any rework of training that doesn't correct that is just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. I do like your idea of picking players to train, but that needs to be completely irrespective of minutes.

Only idiots confuse the idea that you can develop skills outside of games to think that without ever stepping foot in a real game somehow you will be able to apply your skills.

Only idiots mistake what you wrote for my argument. If you don't understand my position please just save your insults and shiite for the next time you want to be banned.

However, glad to see you are taking baby steps in the direction I advocate:

the idea of minutes being required is optional

In general, the only illogical thing here is the basic proposition that players should be developed in BB without any actual playing experience ...

Yes, and those who distort a logical argument into one such as you state here do it either because they don't understand a more logical approach, or just to play Devil's Advocate. The guys who need training the most are the guys at the end of the bench, except of course for those guys being "trained" only for profit, and how logical is that?

Yes, and those who distort a logical argument into one such as you state here do it either because they don't understand a more logical approach, or just to play Devil's Advocate. The guys who need training the most are the guys at the end of the bench, except of course for those guys being "trained" only for profit, and how logical is that?

Yes, it's entirely a logical argument that training time should be prioritized on the scrubs at the very end of the bench, and not on trying to improve the best players on the squad because they're already good enough. I mean, Jordan was good enough coming out of North Carolina, and spending time on him instead of whoever their designated towel-waver was clearly was a mistake. It's a shame that the Bulls decided to train him only for profit to the detriment of their team.

Once again, or should I say yet again, a distortion seems to be necessary to defend the illogical. Kind of makes my case for me, eh?

Once again, or should I say yet again, a distortion seems to be necessary to defend the illogical. Kind of makes my case for me, eh?

Sorry for that. I interpret that when you say that :

The guys who need training the most are the guys at the end of the bench, except of course for those guys being "trained" only for profit, and how logical is that?

you are asserting that a training system that doesn't make improving the 9th-12th best players (which would be what I'd interpret "end of the bench" as) the priority is illogical.

But if you don't like the counterexample I've proffered as a potential proof by contradiction, please feel free to cite the myriad of examples of players who have been relegated to the end of the bench for seasons on end, only to become key cogs in their team's success in the future. If that's *logical*, after all, surely that will be the norm. I mean, what logical head coach would work on scouting their opposition and running sets in practice to get their main players ready for upcoming games when they can use that valuable time to try to make Brian Scalabrine good enough to defend a highschooler.

In BB players who play regularly [48 minutes] get the training, either ignoring those kids at the end of the bench with the potential to go far or playing them often out of position and at the cost of fielding one's most competitive lineup. There is no RL counterpart for that, and no logical one-to-one connection between training and minutes. In BB the effect of minutes played, ie players gaining experience, could be rewarded by the Experience attribute, and that would be logical. Minutes played could even be a small mitigating factor, upward or downward, in logical training coding. For example, if a player didn't play a minimum number of minutes (say 20) over a two week span, his training could be reduced 5% (choose your own numbers) to reflect a paucity of game experience. Even this would just be rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, though.

Your Scalabrine example is also nothing but a red herring. What logical head coach would limit his training to three players and ignore the rest, as is so often the case in BB?

The myopic emphasis on training in BB results in managers playing less than optimally competitive lineups, wasting youngsters' potential when they can't crack the lineup, wildly erratic hyperinflation adversely affecting almost every aspect of the game ... and a steady string of valid complaints in the forums about "minutes" and training, all of which seems to fall on deaf ears. You cannot really consider that well done, can you?