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From: Mike

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37943.2 in reply to 37943.1
Date: 7/3/2008 10:00:19 PM
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This is not a bug, but it is a serious shortcoming of our approach to the rankings. In the three percentage categories (FT%, 3FG% and FG%), a player must have attempted a certain number of shots to qualify for the ranking. If they do not qualify, they end up tied for last place. In the future we would like to detect these players and output something special instead of the last place ranking, but it is not as simple a task as it appears.

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37943.3 in reply to 37943.2
Date: 7/4/2008 9:58:58 AM
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hm, then maybe this is a bug:

in my team, every player with enough games to get stats all are ranked #6 in FT %, no matter how high their percentage is.

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From: Pieriku

To: Mike
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37943.4 in reply to 37943.2
Date: 7/4/2008 12:26:59 PM
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I would have thought that 110 shots in the 15 games played so far was enough to get ranked.

And concerning the FT, maybe you should decrease the minimum to get ranked because that means that only 9 players in the league attempted enough FT so far.

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37943.5 in reply to 37943.3
Date: 7/4/2008 4:03:51 PM
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I suspect that Pieriku has given the answer to your problem: our threshold on FT attempts per game is too high and is disqualifying the vast majority of players. I'll take a look at it and make an adjustment over the weekend. In the meantime, if anyone would like to make a suggestion as to what it should be, I will take it under consideration.

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*NBA.com uses no threshold, and as a result, their FT% stats page is useless.

*ESPN.com requires that an NBA player be averaging 1.52 FT made for every league game that the team has played.

Last edited by Mike at 7/4/2008 6:54:44 PM

From: Pieriku

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37943.6 in reply to 37943.5
Date: 7/4/2008 6:49:28 PM
Olympus Team
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I suggest the threshold to be on the number of FT attempted and not on the FT made because there are quite a lot of players with atrocious in FT who are around 10% (so less than a FT made per game).
1,5 or 2 FT attempted per game can be a good threshold I think.

Concerning the shot percentage, the problem is also the same ? A too high threshold ?
Seems to be too because I see several players ranked 84th in his team.
But I would expect a player that attempted 110 shots in 15 games (more than 7 per game) to have enough shots to be ranked.
Maybe the threshold should be lowered to 5 shots per game ?

Last edited by Pieriku at 7/4/2008 6:58:18 PM

From: Mike

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37943.7 in reply to 37943.6
Date: 7/5/2008 11:51:27 AM
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I've lowered the threshold from 4 att/team game to 2 att/team game. This means that of those players who have played at least 10 of the first 15 league games, now 48% qualify for the FT% rankings instead of 6%.

These changes should affect the world rankings generated after tonight's game, but some of the easternmost countries will have to wait until Tuesday for the effect on their league rankings.

From: Pieriku

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37943.8 in reply to 37943.7
Date: 7/5/2008 12:26:42 PM
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What about the shot threshold ? It seems to be around 8/game, which is quite a lot and I think it should be lowered too. When I see a player that attempted more than 100 shots in 15 games is not ranked, it seems quite strange for me.

From: Kossuhunt

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37943.9 in reply to 37943.8
Date: 8/12/2008 10:11:34 AM
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I'm sorry if it's no big deal for you but some Best Performances in my league and my own team are pretty disturbing, especially if I happen to see them from time to time:) Anyway it would be nice to know real high scores from normal games.

I mean, in my league best performance in rebounds is 32 (all OR's), made by PG and against the opponent who had fielded 3 players. This surely not one normal game and I prefer this record is replaced with normal result. Check the game: (2562357)

PS. My own team's best performances are also wrong- in three categories there's players who are from previous team I suppose. Their stats are still pretty high for my team right so I haven't been able to beat these during last season:P If it's possible can you remove players from previous bot team from my Best Performances section.

Thank you.