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141809.20 in reply to 141809.19
Date: 5/9/2010 6:31:51 AM
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it is a meaningless suggestion

see someone has said it

however i dont actually believe it



lol :D

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141809.21 in reply to 141809.16
Date: 5/9/2010 12:06:38 PM
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You know, the listed position is just a suggestion.


Hmm. Why does everyone keep repeating this myth?


Because it's in the Game Manual:

Best Position: As with the DMI, this is a very rough guideline, and some would even say a meaningless one. You should play your players at the positions that make the most sense to the team, regardless of whether it is his listed position.

If you're going to say the Game Manual is wrong, I daresay the burden of proof is on you.

Last edited by Jerry Midwest at 5/9/2010 12:07:39 PM

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141809.22 in reply to 141809.21
Date: 5/16/2010 10:30:01 AM
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It has nothing to do with listed position. I agree with everyone that you can use a player at any position. But the 'suggested position' designation does have a very important function in the game, one that has been researched, with linked results.

It appears that I'm among the few (although not the first, obviously) who has figured out why 'suggested position' has importance. I'll simply keep my mouth shut and profit from my knowledge.

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141809.23 in reply to 141809.22
Date: 5/16/2010 1:27:56 PM
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It has nothing to do with listed position. I agree with everyone that you can use a player at any position. But the 'suggested position' designation does have a very important function in the game, one that has been researched, with linked results.

It appears that I'm among the few (although not the first, obviously) who has figured out why 'suggested position' has importance. ...


I feel like I missed something - where are these linked results? What is its function in the game engine?
The only importance, other than helping players make lineup/transfer decisions in a hurry, seems to be connected to salary (and perhaps potential cap) calculations.
What exactly do you think is the important function of suggested position?

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141809.24 in reply to 141809.23
Date: 5/16/2010 3:27:29 PM
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connected to salary


Ding, ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!

The salary link is here:

http://www.buzzerbeater.wgz.cz/salary-formula

This does not have to be 100% accurate, but the implications for training for fun and profit are interesting, as well as how to fill your roster is more impotant than the others think. Take a moment to study it, and come up with your own conclusions.

Last edited by Your Imaginary Friend at 5/16/2010 3:27:45 PM

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141809.25 in reply to 141809.24
Date: 5/16/2010 8:10:29 PM
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There's a connection, but you have it the wrong way.
Salaries are not calculated upon a position given before, but the other way around: first, the system calculates a salary (for a player) for all 5 the position, and then the one where the sum ends up being the most becomes the suggestion. This was discussed and "revealed" during my early seasons, dating back to 2008 I think.

A perfect exemple is the salary calculator, which works in the same fashion as the Buzzerbeater system: (http://www.how8.com/bb/index.php)

Therefore, the listed position is just that, a suggestion, as it doesn't imply anything. The only thing it may imply is the search on the market, since you can filter players on sale by position. That said, it's not completely a meaningless guideline, as it helps managers during their learning time in my opinion.

Hopefully I was clear with what I wrote.

edit: link activated

Last edited by Marlin at 5/16/2010 8:18:58 PM

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141809.27 in reply to 141809.23
Date: 5/17/2010 9:32:55 PM
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I feel like I missed something - where are these linked results? What is its function in the game engine?


I feel like I missed something too. This thread took a sharp turn from general to arcane. I don't think the salary implications of "best position" is what the original poster was asking about.