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wouldnt it be possible to make a kind of chamionsleague?

That seems to me to be just another way to form a B3. My personal idea is that everyone (or almost everyone) in BB should be entered into some kind of international tournament every season. If it is just another elite tournament, I think the status quo is fine.

And remember that any idea probably has to be revenue neutral.

Paper Pusher I LOVE your response from (167495.17). If its possible to stick 16384 teams in international competition that would be super duper lovely. Funny thing about 99.9% of games being domestic, it's probably more than in real life, and in real life you actually have to travel to visit a team from another country, some teams played are in super isolated areas where you got to exchange 5 flights into tiny airport and drive 5 hours just to get to the stadium of the visitors team. I mean if those games made possible BB should definitely make worldwide competition possible as well.

While all have their own personal thought, I do think B3 is too tiny and its in everyone's mind just wanting to be part of it but barely anyone can so its somewhat frustrating. I don't think B3 should be eliminated, maybe expanded a little but I do think that somewhere out there there should be matchups made for those who play the best. I think people like to relate to real life, so having something thats equivalent to Champions League should still be around, and have in addition something that will be the equivelant of Europa Cup just with much more teams since BB is about fun and no real aircraft traveling and hotels and homesickness are issues.

The real point I'm trying to make thou is yes there are lots of tweaking into how to implement a large worldwide competition but i'm here to raise awareness of the idea to show you this very super cool thing is possible. I don't care how B3 is affected or not just the idea of adding 4096 to 16384 teams is the main point i hope people can come across with and realize how much they want it and that tweaking a way to make it work is possible

And remember that any idea probably has to be revenue neutra

so keep playing Sc thans or create a private league??

wouldnt it be possible to make a kind of chamionsleague?

al the champions of there division are playing against a champion of another countries division?
Must be difficult to schedule but thats a fair way of getting into Europe
If you do this continental:

north and south america
Europa
Asia and Australie
Middle East and the rest

And maybe you can play the champions of Europe agains the American one and so on?

i find this a good idea. in the end, you could let the best of each country play eachother and you could have a possible larger representation ( spread tourney over 2 seasons maybe, or add an extra game per week for this, say on sunday and wednesday, tho i'm not a big fan of adding even more games to the week at this point)

Now, for tweaking the current B3 system:

i don't mind it to much as it is now. sure i'd love to play in it, but that's about it. their are however 2 problems that should be solved:

1) the teams get some cash from it each week, which 99.9% of the other teams don't get. instead of giving money to the winning team, it should be more of a prestige to play and win it. caus eeventually, it ends up in having the top teams get more money, so they can afford better players, pay slightely higher salaris, etc... this could give em an edge over the other teams in the top divisions in the country. but this isn't the biggest problem in my eyes.

2) and this i find really annoying: that some team from small countries ( no offence ment to these countries tho, but i'm just trying to pick some names to point out the problem) such as Barbados, Macau, Malta, Bahamas, etc. they have teams that quallify that wouldn't even be able to hold their grounds against a III division team of countries such as Spain, Italy or America. i find it trully annoying to see teams that even i could beat, are participating in the B3 tournement.

to solve that issue: why not let each country have a representant for each league that it has. that way, countries such as Italy or Spain, who's top 6 would beat most of the other countries, would be more presented, and have a larger chance at quallifying. you could give a ticket for the cup winner, the PO winner of the top league, the losing finalist, and let the other teams have consolation games to decide who will get the remaining tickets.

At least, that way, you'd have a true presentation of the top teams. cause right now, their are quite alot of teams that quallify that couldn't survive in other countries lower divisions. And, it would also encourage the people of each nation, to try and get more active players, since that will mean that they can have more participants in that B3 tourney. So in an indirect way, you are stimulating the managers to advertise for the game.

just threw in my thoughs

LA-Revo

so keep playing Sc thans or create a private league??

No, that is not what I mean by revenue neutral. What I mean is: if you add money somewhere, you have to take it from somewhere else. So, my example was to remove or diminish cup revenue in order to create larger and possibly more international tournaments.

What you have to remember is that the BBs are scaling the economy right now. They are not going to do anything that adds a significant amount of money to the game. That would create inflation and the goal right now is to have a constant economy.

I'm kind of new here, but when i signed up I was looking forward to being able to play abroad as well, then I learned about B3 and I was kind of pissed. But if that idea of yours does get out there I'd be much more encouraged I think it would be sweet to be part of worldwide competition. I support your idea Gil

Instead national tourneys, BB3 and international tourneys should all play together into a similar system and all should have a financial incentive for the teams involved.

honestly i rate the national tourney much higher then the international ones, because there you have much better abilities to chat with your opponent. And you also play opponent you normally won't play against.

There should be money to earn in the tourney games but I think it should be something more like the playoffs and based on arena revenue/teams- calculated in a similar way to TV revenue. This way there would not be any imbalance since you would be playing and getting paid based on the quality of competition, per league/level. Scrimmages, I feel, should also earn a very small amount of money for your club.

We had this in the past in the cup, and i am happy they changed it. And it doesn't work that way ;) Because this depends also on homecourt, so if you are a relative strong team in the competion, and have homecourt you get lot of money even when you play against a bot like opponent, when your league opponent maybe play a medium strength team away and have to put everything into the game get much less. Even when i don't get the hint with the tv revenue.

For this to work I think teams meeting certain criteria should be entered into different types of international tourneys, like BB3, and national tourneys should be standardized to have the same number of rounds (teams) regardless of country.

first you wanted to eliminate them, and now? Ok maybe this is the wednesday case, but how you want to play a national tournament from bahmamas in the length of the italian one and why?

Smaller countries would not have stictly national tourneys (because they have fewer teams), instead they might have invitational tourneys where some teams from other (see larger) countries would be entered.

or are asmaller countrys nearly all? So that they fit to the biggest 2-3 countrys?

I agree with you about national tourneys having a lot of meaning because people can speak the same language, however in sports when you are the best player in your country you end up being bilingual, look at Ichiro, having to go outside your country to find competition kind of comes with the turf of being a champ ;)

so we should create a international Competition dfor the champions, like the BBB ;)

You do have a good point though that national tourney is a place from people in their country to chat. Paper was suggesting elimination the nationl tourneys, I am suggesting keep them, but maybe not always have a team in them, if your team has qualified for something bigger, for example. You could still log in at that time (normal league game time for your country) to chat with your countrymen about your national tourney and the teams in it.

yeah but it getting less intresting when you don't participate, and the tournament you play the people speak French/Espagnol etc. All beautiful languages no question, but i don't understand them ;)

The whole of the teams in the tourney shoudl be looked at, like with league TV revenue, and so each round of the tourney's prize and the base amount you make for a game is determined

the tv revenue is in my eyes salary based, ok but now i got it because you started it with the PO example which are divided visitor income.

I think the Italian tourney should be smaller and maybe smaller countries larger. So that many italian teams would actually not be playing in their national tourneyment.

something i won't like, because national cups are for me more intresting because it gives me more feedback about my strentgth and more interacting betwen the managers.

he best few Italian teams would be in BB3 or other top-team oriented tourneys.

depending on position, this could be also a punishment. When the little lower ranked team are in average able to play more rounds, and win more money + the possibility to play tie. Why the succesful team, maybe end up in a competion who is stronger then him, so that he get kicked out fast(and don't profitate through the higher prices), and have to play normal with first lineup to have a chanche.