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182821.20 in reply to 182821.18
Date: 4/27/2011 2:14:10 PM
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This won't end well as they were such attempts (and I am pretty sure some of them successful) in last several seasons. People will want to go back and re-solve some old cases.

I am quite worried about the automatic transfer listing - are you talking about six weaks of not playing or just one or what? Who will judge that? I see a potantial bug already - injuuries. I am pretty sure some non-frequent logginh managers could get in trouble without knowing how. i don't like thos approach without even a slightess mention in the rules or anywehre, those things shouldn't be considered ad hoc at all.

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Date: 4/27/2011 2:29:22 PM
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- A player who is not in the NT or U21 team can be fired. If a manager is doing this to sabotage the NT or U21 team, we will take action against that manager separately.

- A player who is in the NT or U21 team and is being sabotaged by their club (e.g., owner refuses to play them in any games to hurt game shape) may be transfer listed by the BBs if the owner does not correct the situation.

These 2 statements look like very bad joke for me. Probably you need to employ some BB-staff member as full time NT/U21 police.
Who will be judging whether someone is sabotaging NT or just can't play the game well (in case of too many minutes or due to new 4 days transfer rule making new monster trick with no thinking of sabotage any NT, just don't want to pay any wage)?
I think it's upon each country community to take care well of their players. Any BB-staff actions are for me unacceptable at all even if it could happen for my country. If it happens for czech player it's just my fault (as NT manager) and I don't expect any BB-staff action. And the same I expect for any other country players. To make it clear I don't recommend any manager to make any sabotage.


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Date: 4/27/2011 2:31:34 PM
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After all, what is a NT player? And where is the line?

Just because of that this can't work. After few seasons we could get an opposite probles of some NT coach nominating litlle playing players who he wants to get on market - which would be far worse (affecting the club play). With the structure of training I can see someone not needing to play palyers in offseason if team has no competitive games. And if you wouldn't bring no injury lasting into new season change many úpeople could be caught just by not risking their stars injured in meaningless games. Schedule si different for each team (private or nt) I can see other situations may arise, I don't like that NT is mroe than club for all cost aproach at all. I doubt decisons would be enough in dubio pro reo defending pressumptuion of innocence.

I prefer clear rules over a subjective jury any day.

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Date: 4/27/2011 2:47:09 PM
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After all, what is a NT player? And where is the line?


A NT player is a player on the NT roster.

When?

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Date: 4/27/2011 2:50:37 PM
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I understand if you save player which is fired by bug, but the other statements are really weird. The rules should be automatic as much as possible ...

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182821.26 in reply to 182821.21
Date: 4/27/2011 3:26:47 PM
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I think it's upon each country community to take care well of their players. Any BB-staff actions are for me unacceptable at all even if it could happen for my country. If it happens for czech player it's just my fault (as NT manager) and I don't expect any BB-staff action. And the same I expect for any other country players. To make it clear I don't recommend any manager to make any sabotage.

how would you act if some farm or veteran team starts tank for 4 seasons (as we have few 30M+ teams here) and then just decide to ruine half of NT Czech squad becose he is mad at czech communitie´s forum talk, whining or whatever? are you and your community able to save your players? nothing is black or white just to find the transparent and fair way..

Last edited by LA-zajino at 4/27/2011 3:29:53 PM

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Date: 4/27/2011 3:37:45 PM
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That's our business. If noone has enough funds to buy such a player we have to save him by calling into NT roster and then wait for another listing/boting as such a player can't be fired. But I don't expect such a conspiracy as almost noone believes our way can be successfull.

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Date: 4/27/2011 3:39:39 PM
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I think it's upon each country community to take care well of their players. Any BB-staff actions are for me unacceptable at all even if it could happen for my country. If it happens for czech player it's just my fault (as NT manager) and I don't expect any BB-staff action. And the same I expect for any other country players. To make it clear I don't recommend any manager to make any sabotage.

how would you act if some farm or veteran team starts tank for 4 seasons (as we have few 30M+ teams here) and then just decide to ruine half of NT Czech squad becose he is mad at czech communitie´s forum talk, whining or whatever? are you and your community able to save your players? nothing is black or white just to find the transparent and fair way..

How? If there is no way how to obtain those players, at least until someone decides we (who have some of them) sabotage their game shape that is, there is hardly anything he/she could do.

And we have been attack before. We called up a player just because a suspicious bidder. As the player was save, he immediately re-appeared on transfer list as that team didn't really want him when he couldn't be fired.

Transparent way is having clear rules. As it has been now (pre-this thread).

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Date: 4/27/2011 3:48:24 PM
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Transparent way is having clear rules. As it has been now (pre-this thread).

Is there any need to repeat the same things again and again? I think everyone got your point.
Thanks.

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182821.30 in reply to 182821.29
Date: 4/27/2011 4:02:00 PM
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What do you want? Shopuld we move with the discussion to global forum? Justz say so. I think this should get as mauch attention as it can cause Charles comments are really serious and game changing in that manager won't have full control over their players and that things can be judged by made up rules written nowhere. That should be cleared and this is not repeating things all over again. Please let Charles solve this himself.

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