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Shotblocking: Good or Bad?

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From: Saltori

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Date: 1/2/2012 11:28:54 PM
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Sometimes in Brazilian's forum I heard something like '' fucks and laughs '' about one of my words. This word was --->'' Acho bom treinar toco'', Or I think is good to train shot blocking.

From: rubbercube

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Date: 1/3/2012 5:12:43 AM
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I agree with zones. That keeps big men close to the basket (not sure about 1-3-1) and so they can get some use of their high SB, if they have one. But do you think SB is more important when defending layups and dunks than when you challenge a jumpshot? In real bball Jshots are rarely blocked but the challenging is very important in making the shot difficult for the shooter. Inside shots on the other hand are getting blocked again and again. But of course BuzzerBeater isnt exactly real bball...
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Date: 1/4/2012 2:05:30 AM
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I am just echoing what someone else said earlier but the problem with SB isn't that it isn't a good skill, it is that the salary formula punished you for having it.

Compate thses three players and tell me which you would rather have.

Player one
All secondaries respectable, all primaries (IS, ID, RE and SB) wondrous.
Salary $114,184.

Player two
All secondaries respectable, all primaries except SB (IS, ID and RE) wondrous, SB atrocious.
Salary $52,292.

Player three
All secondaries respectable, all primaries except SB (IS, ID and RE) prodigious, SB atrocious.
Salary $108,668.

I would think that player two was trivially worse than player one at less than half the cost. It's a no brainer. As for player three, wow, that would be a fantastic big man for the cost. I guess I would like better secondaries because of how cost effective they are but overall he would be brilliant.

Anyone want player #1?

Last edited by yodabig at 1/4/2012 2:09:42 AM

From: Bballin

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Date: 1/4/2012 2:26:21 AM
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Thank you. Someone on my side ;)

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Date: 1/4/2012 4:15:07 AM
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Well still, I would take #1 if I wanted a player to stop Look Inside (maybe not that high IS in that case). If I wanted an offensive center I'd take #3 or #2 depending on how big a salary I can afford.
If everyone picks #3 with those options, well, the result can be seen in B3 games: people kicking each others asses with LI and the winner will be decided mostly based on which one has higher Inside Offense.
So to sum up you're saying that offense is more important than defence (?). I dont think you thought it like that, but that's where it seems to be going.
rubbercube

Last edited by rubbercube at 1/4/2012 4:15:49 AM

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205736.30 in reply to 205736.26
Date: 1/4/2012 12:09:31 PM
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Hmm, well that's a silly way to look at it, comparing 1 and 2 is just not fair.

Using my salary calculator(yeah I know it's a bit off now, but the point remains). All have respectable secondaries.

Player one
All primaries wondrous.
$139,156

Player two
Atrocious SB.
$62,888

Player three
Atrocious RB.
$30,875

Player four
Atrocious IS.
$30,875

Player five
Atrocious ID. Yes, this one is silly because you obviously need both SB/ID to be a good defender.
$28,452

Seems obvious to me that SB is actually the most cost effective of the inside skills. Using your example of removing one skill and raising the other skills to a salary level similar to that of the all wondrous I'll do that with IS.

Player six
Atrocious IS. Colossal in other inside skills
$134,406

I could get Colossals in Rebounding/Inside Defense/ and Shot Blocking, he may not put the ball in the hole, but he'd hold his own defensively/control the glass, especially against some triple 16 dude.

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