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263332.20 in reply to 263332.19
Date: 10/23/2014 5:57:47 AM
white snake
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he only needs PA that's hard to train for tall players

no. taller players train faster than small ones.
from the training speed analysis:
6'0'' --> 0.66 per training
6'6'' --> 0.70 per training
7'0'' --> 0.74 per training
7'6'' --> 0.77 per training
for 18 year old trainee, single position

JS 11 JR 7
OD 18 HA 11
DR 14 PA 9
IS 18 ID 7
RB 15 SB 5

ID 7 will be hard to keep it that low. OD and RB both train ID. If you really want to try this build you have to start with ID 1. Than there is a possibility that ID will stop at 7. But I would bet on it. 2,5 ups in OD go with 1 up in ID. And you will need at least 11 ups in OD.
As an example: ID 10 wil take a lot of cap space away. You would have to go with IS 16 or RB 13 instead.

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263332.22 in reply to 263332.20
Date: 10/23/2014 6:38:39 AM
Woodbridge Wreckers
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no. taller players train faster than small ones.


Yeah I've seen the numbers but I remain skeptical since it differs from the general rule that tall players train slow in guard skills. Do those numbers take into account the elastic effect since most bigs have higher HA than PA so it will always profit from elastic effect, while small players actually get a negative there. In any case, it supports the point I was trying to make that it's easier to train the PG defending as C.

ID 7 will be hard to keep it that low

I'm aware of the secondary training, but you can take that into account when finding your player. A bit more ID doesn't hurt and at worst he'll cost 60k and need Superstar, but that's still very managable.

Just looking to other ways of playing though can turn this around.

This is what I'm trying to do, and I like your idea of defensive specalists with other players carrying the offense. It's a step in the direction I'm trying to go.

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263332.24 in reply to 263332.23
Date: 10/23/2014 11:29:53 AM
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Mate, with that height and keeping IS low you can make him into a C much quicker...you don't need 16 OD on a C: it might be enough to defend most guards while playing out of position, but if he plays as a big man 16 is overkill while some extra ID-SB would probably be significant

Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/23/2014 11:31:31 AM

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263332.26 in reply to 263332.25
Date: 10/23/2014 11:48:35 AM
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The problem is that with that height it will take many seasons to bring up OD without elastic effect. all I'm saying is that if you give up some OD (14 perhaps?) with that height you'll be able to get elite inside defensive and rebounding numbers, which means this guy will be able to defend anything 3-5. 16OD-16ID is surely great, just not elite and he'd still suffer against elite Cs and outside guards. I'd go 14OD-18ID-18SB, but it's just me.

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263332.27 in reply to 263332.26
Date: 10/23/2014 11:52:27 AM
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But that would increase salary significantly.

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263332.28 in reply to 263332.27
Date: 10/23/2014 11:53:49 AM
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Indeed it would...but he's got an MVP player and with that low IS you're still looking at 100k-150k

Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/23/2014 11:54:26 AM

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263332.29 in reply to 263332.28
Date: 10/23/2014 11:58:36 AM
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But the trick was to stay under 60k, as I understand it.

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263332.30 in reply to 263332.29
Date: 10/23/2014 12:12:02 PM
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Apologies, my mistake :).

I thought Nachtmar's build with 5/18/18/18 inside skills would be a PG with over 80k salary though. Still very efficient! And 8/18/18/18 would end up in the C formula but still still be around 100k, perhaps less.

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