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From: Redemption

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266312.20 in reply to 266312.19
Date: 2/4/2015 2:52:55 PM
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1st time here I can't resist the 400k net income u guys get here
Is it better just to tank it and get a top pick and come back with better roster and finances?
It burns about 1 mil in div II to get here but it's a washout with the promotion bonus
I don't see myself competing against a 900k roster anytime soon

From: TnT

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266312.21 in reply to 266312.20
Date: 2/4/2015 3:57:45 PM
Beware of Dogs
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Everyone has a different view on this and I understand everyone's situation is different as well. But I'm personally not a fan of tank & rebuild strategy ... unless you already achieved what you can do in the NBBA and it's just time to try something new (like Bullish's case).

Also you shouldn't worry too much about $900K roster because not many of us here can sustain that long term. I would recommend try to hang around as long possible and in the meanwhile build/improve up your team & wait for your opportunity to capture the CUP or league title.

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266312.22 in reply to 266312.20
Date: 2/4/2015 4:29:01 PM
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i second TnT: it is better to be here than try to get back here.

i would not say for a second the best 16 teams in the US are in the NBBA -- and there some really good teams who are fighting tooth and nail amongst each other to get here. really good managers, those with a sparkling record of long success up here, teams like the Bruins, Silverbacks, and Burlington, once they dropped down, have stayed down (although i think it is at least partly their choice). i know some teams / managers who have for one reason or another had to move down -- Kurgans, Yuck, the River Dogs, Rocket Science -- and they know how to assemble a team and may stand in your way to a rapid return to the NBBA. and you defeated perhaps the best non-NBBA team, the Clogs, to get here. try doing that again! i would not set that as a task for myself.

if you have a plan, then you are right, you can pile up a pretty good stash here, and that can give your future team a solid foundation -- but remember young-ish impact players at this level run $2 million plus, and training players to that level take four, five or more seasons.

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266312.23 in reply to 266312.22
Date: 2/4/2015 4:35:47 PM
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Well the core that got me here
Was mostly over 30 year of age
So I sold those 2 at reasonable prices while I still can
I tried to stay and compete on div Ii for the reasons u listed above but
Never was able to crack it until I dropped down to div III and came back
For some reason
I feel like the promotional bonus and attendance
Is just too much to pass up
This is the only chance to field a team at min salary and achieve Max attendance
Had I kept the same roster and bought some new players to stay in the league
That woulda have been a 5-6 million difference
And I won't have enough to win it all


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266312.24 in reply to 266312.23
Date: 2/4/2015 5:33:15 PM
Arizona Cacti
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I already did the drop and promote thing from NBBA Lite (II.4 a few seasons ago) and it took a bit just to get back to II so I can only imagine how long it would take to get back here. If I was low on cash it would be different but I had about 3.5 mil before my purchase today and am still making a lot of weekly profit so I have some options.

I think my ceiling this year is a #4 seed (if I'm lucky) and first round fodder for Hassan or one of you other guys but if I can stick and have that extra year of training for Glass/Rojas and promotion income I might be able to do some damage in a couple seasons.

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266312.25 in reply to 266312.23
Date: 2/4/2015 9:00:55 PM
Delta 9
II.4
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I concur w/ the others in that staying in the NBBA is better than tanking, getting draft picks & trying to re-promote. It took me many seasons to promote to Div II.4, I don't intend to go back. Back then, it felt like I would never escape. Now, I fear I might be stuck there for eternity ...

On a separate note, someone said something a about $12,000,000 & patience. Who's got 12,000,000 ??

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266312.26 in reply to 266312.25
Date: 2/4/2015 9:17:16 PM
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alright then i will give it a shot and get some players

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266312.27 in reply to 266312.26
Date: 2/4/2015 9:20:27 PM
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mean while there is a DIV IV usa team trying to outbid me for a 2 million player.....
i guess i am just that broke

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266312.28 in reply to 266312.26
Date: 2/4/2015 9:50:20 PM
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There's really no need to get players before Saturday.

From: AZ

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266312.29 in reply to 266312.25
Date: 2/5/2015 11:45:17 AM
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King Drive Ballers during his second stint in the NBBA must have had near that. He was USA's best bet for winning the Buzzerbeaters Best tourney. At one point he had 4 members of USA's National Team on his roster. I think his general operating expense was minus 200k a week. He managed to do that for a few seasons while continuously trying for the BB Crown.

From: RamQ

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266312.30 in reply to 266312.29
Date: 2/5/2015 2:41:48 PM
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I guess I'll chime in here as well before I turn into someone who only reads the forums and doesn't join in on the fun.

I believe that staying in a higher league has always been easier than actually winning the championship in a lower league. ( i.e. not being relegated from D.II was easier than promoting from D.III.) I found this to be true in each league that I have promoted from. I would do great in a league but it would take a couple of seasons to pull out as the champion, but when I did manage to win, the next league wasn't to much of a struggle to stay alive. Much less so in the NBBA, but I think the premise is still there. There are 22 games in which you can formulate a plan, take advantage of others terrible cup draws, and so forth, rather than a single elimination game that could knock you out because your best dude got injured or some other freak thing.

That being said, I also promote zigging while others zag. The thing that I love about Buzzerbeater is all the different strategies you can use. You could build your players the way you want them to look. You can't let anyone tell you how to do everything about your team, then its not really your team. Some may preach hardcore against old players (33+), while others such as a team named Valhalla promoted ridiculously fast because he capitalized on what others undervalued. #preUtopia. The thing that seems to still be engrained into everyone's head is a lvl 4 trainer. It was being taught when I joined and is still being taught today, "You have to have a level 4 trainer". So you go out and buy one for a bunch of money, all the while lvl 3 trainers are basically being giving away for free. All that to say is self evaluation is key in this game. If you predict that this season is going to be a "Season 28 Big 8 bloodbath", and you see yourself on the bottom of that bloodbath, bowing out might be the best option financially. Rather than demoting in a state of financial ruin, you can demote with the finances to come back quickly.

I'd love to hear what Lucas has to say since he has tanked the NBBA and came back up the next season.

Last edited by RamQ at 2/5/2015 2:42:06 PM

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