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From: Knecht
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274191.21 in reply to 274191.20
Date: 11/6/2015 3:20:55 AM
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Training six guys (age 18-21) in 1-on-1 for forwards gave me around 7-8 pops on average every week.

If you like to see some quick progress, this is the most exciting training to do.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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274191.22 in reply to 274191.20
Date: 11/6/2015 4:53:18 AM
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We all knew about your hardships with numbers, but now also English? The OP was asking about FASTEST POPS and I replied:
- 1 position training. Training where the maximum training is achieved by playing 48:00 minutes at a given position...
- 2 position training. For these the best possible training is 48:00 minutes at either of 2 positions ...
- team training:...

Note that instead of the best possible training (detailed above) you have a number of subpar options ...
I also invite you to stop spreading misinformation. You just need to take the data of the US website: 3 position training is about half as fast as 2 position training (sometimes less than half sometimes a little more). Now, since you have trouble computing that, I will point out that 6*100%*x=6x and 9*60%*x=5.4x...

Team training, especially if you assume you train 12-15 guys would be faster overall, but so slow individually that honestly I'm not sure whether you're serious or not. Besides the obvious underlying assumption there is that ALL or MANY of a team's players are in fact trainable at a meaningful speed, something which is not true for 99.9% of the teams in this game.

And even assuming ALL the players are trainable and they are given 48 minutes in a week anybody (and probably you first) will tell you how bad of an idea that is for short term and long term success. Short term you have a lot of young players improving slowly. In the long term the players can't be sold early for a decent profit, not they will sell for good money being substantially worse than similar players of their age.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 11/6/2015 5:08:00 AM

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274191.25 in reply to 274191.23
Date: 11/6/2015 6:20:55 AM
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Anyway I was told that 2 position pressure, for example, gave more than 50% of 1 position
That is the case. And it is also the case that it does not give you the fastest pops. For the record I have trained 2 position training (including pressure) on 5 players in the first 2 seasons of Utopia.

The data might not be reliable for 3 position, but 2 position Pressure seemed mind bogglingly slow, compared to when I got 3 better trainees and trained it 2 position.


Take some Japanese, perhaps then you'll understand why your mind is so different than mine. It wont be easy for you. DOn't try to clown. Its like a fatman telling me I can't run. Its just funny.
You seem to assume that:
a) I'm English to begin with
b) I can't speak/understand any language other than English (like, for example, Chinese, French, Finnish, Spanish, Italian)
c) I don't know anything about Japan

Lots and lots of assumptions lol, so befitting American stereotypes. Yeah, you are indeed the fatso telling other people they can't run. (y)

Last edited by Lemonshine at 11/6/2015 6:34:44 AM

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274191.28 in reply to 274191.26
Date: 11/6/2015 6:54:58 AM
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In this case training 6 or 9 at a time may be more profitable than 3 at a time, the same way that training P.allstars wtih a low level trainer is more profitable than training MVP+ with an L6 or 7
No it isn't. High potential, high TSP players sell at a premium, we already had this discussion. However, I invite you to prove everyone that you're right in the next 4 seasons: buy 6 guys and show us how much money you can make. If it's also the most efficient way, it does make complete sense.

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274191.30 in reply to 274191.29
Date: 11/6/2015 7:20:37 AM
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As usual the bonehead comes out of his cave.

How's 2.6 million profit on an MVP in 4 seasons for you? Enough? Note that this guy is a good comparable in terms of skills for my own 22yo who has 108 TSP and is taller (but Superstar potential). We talked about him too and you did not believe I could sell him for 2+ million. Don't remember about that either, do you?
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/player/33698873/history.aspx

Maybe 1.2 million on a superstar then?
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/player/34025310/history.aspx

As I said, instead of blabbing and blabbing and blabbing, prove it. Train 6 players with double position training and show us how much money you can make. Then we'll talk. The rest is the usual hot air, especially because your own actions (then number of the trainees in your teams in this case) go directly against what you write. Nothing to be surprised about when it comes to you, mate, but I just wanted to point it out.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 11/6/2015 7:29:00 AM

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