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36033.20 in reply to 36033.19
Date: 6/18/2008 9:38:34 PM
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i dont get it ?

why are we tackling the issue of personal stats when we are talking about offensive flow

shouldnt it be better to talk what kind of offense could work better on what kind of defense preferably base on having certain skills of a certain player position like lets say a center on a motion offense or shooting guard on a low post play? or better yet what results or display of talent a player can we see if added that skills which we think normally is not thought of?

like example a high skill jump range for a center? ( i know it may sound absurd )

thats were we can gbet a better understanding of offensive flow?

because one said here a player dish out a bloody 10 assist per game but his the flow sucks ?

so what gives? if not looking into player stats and now we are going at team stats?

because it varies every day it varies . . .

Last edited by Shoei at 6/18/2008 9:44:52 PM

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36033.21 in reply to 36033.13
Date: 6/19/2008 2:03:00 AM
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David Delacourt (2399395)


I find in my league that teams that look inside and have only 1-2 good guards get way more assists than balanced teams playing push the ball for example...

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36033.23 in reply to 36033.22
Date: 6/19/2008 10:15:45 AM
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I am curious where this information comes from

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36033.24 in reply to 36033.23
Date: 6/19/2008 10:19:34 AM
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I am curious where this information comes from


Yeah, seriously. It sounds like one of those things where people just assume because Hattrick does/did something in a certain way, BB must as well. (Because regular goals in HT were generated this way, AFAIK.)

The meme I've seen repeated many times that the top skill determines salary is another likely BB myth that fits this category.

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36033.26 in reply to 36033.24
Date: 6/19/2008 10:33:55 AM
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I am curious where this information comes from


Yeah, seriously. It sounds like one of those things where people just assume because Hattrick does/did something in a certain way, BB must as well. (Because regular goals in HT were generated this way, AFAIK.)

The meme I've seen repeated many times that the top skill determines salary is another likely BB myth that fits this category.

I know a couple of things on these topics with relative certainty (read: official statements on the issue):

Salary seems to be based on a weighted package of skills depending on positions (remember the announcement on PFs right before last draft?). The fact that players get classified in positions based on their top skills likely bias this towards salaries being determined mostly by the top skill, but this is clearly not the only deciding factor.

Teams get a series of 'looks' at the basket for the 24 seconds they have for an attack. I've heard nothing about how assists are determined on those looks, and which comes first -- determining the passer, or whether there is an assist.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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36033.27 in reply to 36033.25
Date: 6/19/2008 10:36:15 AM
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I am curious where this information comes from


that's my opinion (sorry if i forgot to put an IMO)..
it comes from my experience and observations, NOT HATTRICK..
i thought that it musn't be too hard to get to that result after playing this game for a few seasons..

I am curious how one can determine that the assisting player is determined after the decision whether there is an assist or not. This is not necessarily false, but there doesn't seem to be anything in the match report that suggests it.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
From: Shoei

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36033.28 in reply to 36033.25
Date: 6/19/2008 11:05:25 AM
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you said "does not mean that he has a great passing skill, that means his passing skill is much higher than his playmates.."

then explain how come my pg who has a better skill than my center, but my center ends up to be part of the leader board for the past 2 seasons

wouldnt it show if your pg has a better defender or a slight or good defender though probably your pg is better than the defender there are instances where in he hounds your pg.

also wouldnt it be also a effect if the teammates having offensive skills more better than the defense an example is sensational inside shot to a strong inside D. or suited to the play or another is if the offensive players offense sucks more likely or so he will prompt to force shots that arent going to go in or get quality shots.

because i have gone against a pf and a center who's salary is 2x than what my big men has but if i join them together since they have the highest of inside d i can see the offensive player have a hard time scoring though they dominate but it limits then on a certain time

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