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91077.21 in reply to 91077.20
Date: 5/30/2009 1:45:09 AM
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Your big man Garcia that is on the market, looks great prospect as SF too. Little tall to get decent dwarf training but still very nice secondary skills


Thanks for replies..
I actually rate RB pretty high and believe that it proves quite useful throughout the whole team.
I'm really experimenting with the SF position and have yet to decide the type of SF I prefer. I favour the small guys (i guess cos they are rarer)....Ramos is my new SF project and i just hope that he still has some skill-ups in him at OD... but the complete SF is still a way off. Everyone still has 1 or more niggling deficient stat and my attempts with Bastias showed me how long a 6'10 guy takes to train at OD.... having said that I think it is definitely worth the effort.

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91077.22 in reply to 91077.21
Date: 5/30/2009 2:07:15 AM
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how long does it takes for a 6'10 to train OD? ,I have a SF project as well and next season I'm planing on guard skills so your experience would be very apreciated

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91077.23 in reply to 91077.22
Date: 5/30/2009 2:10:40 AM
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Your dominating your league so you have the luxury for mono training etc, without afraid to lose any games, so you can gamble, and do w/e you like. If i was at your position maybe i could try to convert a guy 6'10 to a PG lol

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91077.24 in reply to 91077.22
Date: 5/30/2009 3:48:06 AM
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Well i had a 6ft 5 guy take 5 or 6 weeks to go up a level but he was allstar only and is i imagine v.close to his soft cap.

I dont document things exactly but i think the move on Bastias from Strong to Proficient was 6weeks in PG/SG.

I hope to have some new data in a season or so from now!

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91077.25 in reply to 91077.23
Date: 5/30/2009 3:53:59 AM
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I rarely mono-train as i feel the risk is too high.... having said that it is only recently i have made purchases of players with greater than Allstar potential.

This season I hope to use some weeks to try single position as i phase out the training of my soon to be 24yo's and if the minutes fail I will take the opportunity to train stamina or free throws.

I guess the next question is what experience do people have of training 23-25yo's?

I imagine there are some great players that potentially could still be improved to even greater more rounded long term stars for their respective teams. Will managers devote the time to 'polishing' them or simply look to sell on buy a better base trainee and start the process again?

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91077.26 in reply to 91077.25
Date: 5/30/2009 5:47:20 AM
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Well as i said b4 you can do everything you like, but without specific needs, i will go to a high potential young guy and give him the best possible training. You dont need to train an older player even that my experience is that you can train a 24-25 y/o player

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91077.27 in reply to 91077.25
Date: 5/30/2009 6:30:10 AM
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I trained my 23 year old (now 24 year old) best player last season and the training speeds weren't that much slower compared to the rates for 18 year olds, until he hit the dreaded potential cap and stopped reacting to training.

So if a player has a very high potential, the training shouldn't be that much slower for a 23 year old player.

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91077.28 in reply to 91077.27
Date: 5/30/2009 10:48:48 AM
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I have a player like that on my team. He'll be 24 this year and Im hoping to still get training out of him as he is my best player. His potential is MVP though so he shouldn't cap so easily.

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91077.29 in reply to 91077.13
Date: 6/2/2009 10:37:44 PM
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A player with a bunch of respectable skills is not a "player". It's a guy you pick off the street. A player is someone who has spent years improving his basketball skills.

I don't understand what this has to do with my post. Did I ever contradict that? Perhaps you misunderstood my question. Anyhow...

I'll give you a small task: go to the transfer list and search for all players that have 12 or better in Inside Shot, Inside Defense, and Rebounding. Then come back and report how many 5'6 guys you found among them.

If this doesn't convince you, search for players above 7'0 and then for players shorter than 6'0, and check what the average rebounding rate is.

Again, I don't understand why are you pointing at this. Now I'm positive that you didn't understood me. I was not talking about training, but about in game advantage solely. If you don't find anything strange in the fact that 7'0" guy doesn't have any rebounding advantage over 5'6" guy... and, again, I'm not talking about training, but in game rebounding... fine, no problem, I'm not gonna argue over it. Still, I think it's absurd to believe that someone like Nate Robinson could out rebound someone like Dwight Howard. Whatever.

And as far as tasks are concerned, I have one for you, too: go and Google how many 5'6" centers made it to the NBA, or even better, forget the NBA, go and Google how many 5'6" centers played this game professionally at all... and then ask yourself why is that? Perhaps that will help you to understand my point.

The question is not what were they thinking (this is a very well-thought feature of the game), but whether you've thought about the situation at all.

You know what? I think you are being very unfair, not to say rude. I never meant to offend anyone, but whatever. I'm glad to see that you put some thought into it, though :/

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