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This sounds quite unfair for small BB countries like Cyprus? Teams in their first league play mostly with 5000 spect. arena? How do you think they can ever develope their teams with new rules?

They cant.
Which sucks.

oh my

shouldnt the bb give smething to this kind of situation

This sounds quite unfair for small BB countries like Cyprus? Teams in their first league play mostly with 5000 spect. arena? How do you think they can ever develope their teams with new rules?

maybe by upgrading their arena?

btw cyprus has more users than japan, so they can at least reach this level(53418)

maybe by upgrading their arena?

btw cyprus has more users than japan, so they can at least reach this level(53418)

It has been this far quite easy to upgrade arena (to get money for that). Not any longer in the future if you already are in first league of your country and your arena capacity is only 5000 spectators. Such teams are also in Japans JBBL.

And you should note that this is third BB season in Japan but only the second in Cyprus. You have had one season more time to develope your team and arena than they have.

so they already wasted a season. bad management
and what did they do with all the money from tv games last season? don't tell me they had problems paying their 60k overall salaries...

so they already wasted a season. bad management
and what did they do with all the money from tv games last season? don't tell me they had problems paying their 60k overall salaries...

The problem teams are the ones who have religiously thrown large sums in their arenas starting in Season 1, not the teams who came into existence, say, midway through S3. However, the new measures do not make a difference between these two categories.

I actually think it is excellent management not to start to expand the arena at day 1, since you can gradually increase prices.

Of course, no-one had advanced knowledge that the attendance formula will be changed to favor huge arenas, but gate receipts will be taxed. This is a severe overhaul of the status quo, which totally kills teams who chose not to invest every free dollar in seats.

I don't think it is fair to those teams to put them in a vicious circle where they have the crowd to fill a larger arena, but no cash to expand since their income is being heavily taxed. I find this unforeseen and hardly equitable.

Of course, no-one had advanced knowledge that the attendance formula will be changed to favor huge arenas, but gate receipts will be taxed. This is a severe overhaul of the status quo, which totally kills teams who chose not to invest every free dollar in seats.

Precisely. I would also like to add to this that it is hardly fair to accuse someone of bad management when they managed their team based on a particular set of rules and then have the rug pulled from under them by another set of rules.

dam that delete button


Countries with I.- III. full divisions where are teams in fact for some time have no problem with that tax rule. However it seems that it would damage new countries or countries with not so high volume of users/teams, because these teams have no builded arena, which in fact compensate that taxes, it is a main income.

However you have to remember that these taxes are from the actually volume of wage from players.. your players demands more, there is no country tax or something like that, which means that you have these taxes in fact under controll...

I know from myself very clearly that in new country in second division is enough to have for several seasons players with wage 2-5k. New tax formula will happen that these teams will more think about their's expenses and will do that all. Indeed, who actually have bigger arena will more benefit from that for now, but if there is someone on the 1st league for 3 seasons now and have arena still 4500, I'm not sure how he could survive, by well done business?

What I want to say is that if the league is new, all teams have weak players with no wages, so they have in fact advantage to be so high with no reason and this advantage is now compensated by lower arena size.

It is not so easy like to say "I will have bigger taxes however I have no arena". There is important to remember why I have a bigger taxes and how the other teams will be - if they will sell high salary players too. There are more things to understand which are not so clear to see indeed, but this is a manager game, not a game for 7 years old kids, right?

Second thing which are braking these teams are ticket holders, which increase by the time and affects the attendeance according you last positions on the league. This increase/decrease is slow and if there are such a tax change, should be more dynamical, because your last year position better evidence which team you have. There would be no waiting for more ticket holders, because you are in the best league, however losing money because there is no reason to be in there so early - same as is no reason to have these players so taxed.
You could lose money from the attendeance, which you could not have, because you have no arena and you didn't know like was mentioned.

So ticket holders more dynamical.

But only temporary (2-3seasons just for the acomodation). Then it would be even more slower.

However it seems that it would damage new countries or countries with not so high volume of users/teams, because these teams have no builded arena, which in fact compensate that taxes, it is a main income.

New countries also have much less competition to gain top level amounts of season ticket holders. It costs less in the players needed to win, so I don't understand why there should be exclusions to the rule.

Attendance might be 1/3rd of what established top teams make, but so will wages.