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126331.21 in reply to 126331.20
Date: 1/7/2010 5:26:21 PM
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what would be the ideal amount of minutes to play a player to maintain his GS?

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Date: 1/7/2010 5:47:38 PM
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You want at least 48 minutes for training purposes and to maintain at least a respectable GS. The ideal amount (for strong/proficient GS) in my opinion is between 50-65 minutes. Other people have different numbers but these numbers work for me. You also have to take into account, the random factor. For instance, last week I had a player with 48 minutes who went up to proficient GS. As long as you aren't below 48 mins or way above (like 80+) you should be able to maintain a respectable GS. Respectable GS being the minimum that I like to have my players at.

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126331.23 in reply to 126331.21
Date: 1/7/2010 6:55:09 PM
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I aim for 55-70 minutes. Try and make sure they don't play more then 80 minutes as game shape will likely take a hit at that point.

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126331.24 in reply to 126331.22
Date: 1/8/2010 10:54:11 AM
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Funny thing my SG had 112minutes last week and his GS got improved, but as you said random its a big factor here too.

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Date: 1/15/2010 1:42:37 AM
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just wondering if a player dont not get to 48, does his skills have a chance to go up?

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Date: 1/15/2010 1:57:22 AM
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Lets say that 1 of your trainees get 45 min instead 48 then he will get lets say ~75-80%. Its not linear the drop of the % of the training and its giving a big penalty for every missed min

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126331.27 in reply to 126331.25
Date: 1/15/2010 2:13:12 AM
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If a player gets ANY training he is a chance to pop in a skill it depends how high his sub level is. If a player only got 5 minutes but was on .99 of a level then that 5 minutes might give him enough training to push him to a skill pop.

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Date: 1/15/2010 5:01:05 AM
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Maybe someone can help me ? I have spent 2 weeks for training the game shape, but it is not raising for my best players.

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Date: 1/15/2010 5:16:27 AM
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Training Game Shape is only a marginal help and can't correct a completely wrong management of your player's minutes.

In case you haven't read it anywhere before: In order to maintain your players' game shape, they have to play around 50-70 minutes (there are different opinions about the perfect number) per week (Saturday to Friday).
That should lead to game shapes of 8-9 which is pretty good.

I've just checked some of your best players (salary-wise) and their minutes played this week:
Zgura: 33 + 38 + 42 = 113
Marquez: 39 + 48 + 47 = 134
Aaporo: 40 + 48 + 48 = 136

Even training game shape won't help in these cases. (Their GS is at 4...)

Try to give every player a reasonable number of minutes per week and you will see that there's no need to train game shape anymore.

Cheers
Andi

We have both said a lot of things that you are going to regret.
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126331.30 in reply to 126331.28
Date: 1/15/2010 5:28:22 AM
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Coach Soel wrote a very good guide how to manage game shape and why it is so important.

you can find it here. i hope it will help you.

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thread=127791&m=1

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126331.31 in reply to 126331.29
Date: 1/15/2010 6:18:45 AM
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Big Thanks !!! Now i understand how wasteful was my game shape trainings, instead i could train my young players.

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