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There used to be a mentoring thread. Xarn brought it up yesterday. Not sure what happened to it but I always had success with the people I talked to because they sought us out not vice versa. They also fit your point about not having players that can contribute but caring enough to help anyways.

hokies333 has 2 NT caliber players, sought out help and has been open to suggestions and actively asking questions.

Maybe it's as simple as opening up a sticky mentor thread and putting a list of "staff" members there who are willing to help.

The obvious answer is very hard to do. Get the prospects to people who care. I've been trying to get a decent American prospect for 4 seasons and I just haven't had the spare cash to buy one and keep my team competitive. The best thing to do is just to talk to as many owners as possible and encourage them. Make the NT environment fun and exciting and a community. It's all we can do. Hopefully we can get more activities like the NT Prediction challenge to drum up interest.

That is the GREAT part about being a League V coach (and new .. .). Whoever the U21 and NT coaches are, I will single train my guy solely for the National teams . . .. that will do nothing but help my team. The better Harry Jeffries is . . . the better G-Men will be (in my opinion).

(by the way . .. what happens if I get relegated out of a V league?)

Good News G5! There is nowhere to go but up!

You can't get relegated out of V. And if your active, and listen to all the fine advice our plethora of intelligent managers has for an up and coming coach such as yourself, I assure you that you will not be in D.V for much longer (having reached the finals with only a half season in the game means you wouldn't have to worry about relegation out of V even if it was possible, which again, it isn't.)

People need to realize you can only benefit from training a NT caliber player. Monetarily or schematically, there really is no downside.

As an aside, single position training is the best for your team in the long term. Yes you will have to sell some players to make it work but it does work.

I don't want to bog down the "debate" thread but I couldn't think of a better place to pose this question. If someone were to run for manager of a country that is blatantly non-competitive would it be acceptable to manage said country's team and advise on the USA team (or other similarly competitive team?

I fully agree with you, but it isn't what X-steppers was talking about. He wanted thresholds to make the team, which in my view is counterproductive

That wasn't the entirety of my discussion but it was the part you disagreed with most vehemently.

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with setting a sort of minimum standards for starting position at skills but we've been over that 100 times both publically and privately so I don't wish to rehash it again.

Where I think this dovetails into the current discussion is that I think you guys are right in that there are going to be various types of managers playing this game.

a) those who log in and never come back
b) those who log in and don't want to be bothered to learn the game or be told what to do
c) those who log in, love the game, do a great job of improving their team and couldn't careless about the nt/u20
d) those who love the NT scene but aren't into the rest of the game (farms, if you will)
e) those who love the NT scene and their teams and want to do everything to balance both
f) Those who log in, are just starting to figure out the the game but need guidance on where to go


For the purposes of the NT/u20 you never have to do any reaching out to the managers in D and E because they will reach out to you. Once you identify the folks in C & B, you can pretty much leave them alone. There's always going to be category A but you'll never know which of the new teams are A's or A's waiting to become E's.

It is category F that holds the most potential for the NT/u20 team. The more of those managers you can identify and assist the stronger your depth will be. Personal contact is 1 great tool to help these people. The offsite forum is another good tool. Another tool that can and should be used is the public forum. As an example the NT discussion thread after we failed to advance was a beautiful read for anyone who cared to learn about the NT team and the strategy used. Sure it had the advantage of monday morning Quarterbacking but it still had a lot of very good information in it. In my opinion, that kind of public discussion will only spur interest amongst those in category F who find the threads. What better way to help them find that information than to put it out here in the form of a sticky? Or as a suggestion from some of the personal contact "scouts?"

EDIT: left out a word, if you can believe it. ;-)

Last edited by Xarn at 3/25/2010 11:06:37 AM