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277825.21 in reply to 277825.20
Date: 6/4/2016 12:56:44 PM
Get over it.


That's the problem, I can't get over it. What's the point in having human team knocked out, while there are some bots in the cup run??? It doesn't make any sense.

Last edited by TheGreatDanton at 6/4/2016 12:57:14 PM

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277825.22 in reply to 277825.21
Date: 6/4/2016 1:43:45 PM
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If the draw is seeded so that the big teams can remain in the Cup, it will make it much easier for the big teams to win. In my opinion, that's removing one of the big joys of the Cup, that because the draw is open, and big teams can remove each other, it makes it possible for smaller teams to do well.

The opposite, where the number one teams becomes much more likely to win makes no sense to me.

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277825.23 in reply to 277825.22
Date: 6/4/2016 1:55:30 PM
I am not talking about seeding, yeah, I agree, seeding in bad. but, but... what if the small team gets paired against the top tier team in the very first round? is not not better for smaller team to face bots in the first rounds and then top tier?? So if random is cruel your small teams get knocked out at the very first stage, instead of after 2 or 3 round.

I repeat, I am not talking about seeding, I am talking about seeding all human team against bot teams, until there are bot teams left. I think it's better for smaller to team to reach final closer, than such drawing.

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277825.24 in reply to 277825.23
Date: 6/4/2016 2:01:03 PM
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If all teams are allowed to play bots then all teams stay in the Cup longer. Fewer rounds where the top teams can be paired means more top teams reaching the late stages. Inevitably this gives smaller teams less chance. Yes I can see it would be "better" financially for all human teams to get further, but I don't think that would improve the game or the Cup.


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277825.25 in reply to 277825.24
Date: 6/4/2016 2:14:34 PM
Ok, for one concrete small team it may be better such drawing. If he gets lucky he goes further. But in average, for all small teams it's much worse. If all top tier team are left in the cup run, so are all the small teams. Top teams can be knocked out by playing each other in the later rounds, when no bot teams are left.

I am not saying it for financial reasons, I am saying this for the enjoyment of being in the cup run much longer.

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277825.26 in reply to 277825.25
Date: 6/4/2016 2:47:04 PM
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I just don't agree with you. For reasons I've already stated the Cup is fine as it is.

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277825.27 in reply to 277825.26
Date: 6/4/2016 2:55:11 PM
You are right. I want to change something, and I have to convince you and GMs, but I don't have enough arguments )))) someday I'll come up with real arguments.

Good Luck in the cup run and the whole season as well

Last edited by TheGreatDanton at 6/4/2016 2:55:55 PM

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277825.28 in reply to 277825.27
Date: 6/4/2016 5:40:15 PM
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why not just remove bots entirely from the cup? When the Cup schedule is generated each week not human owned teams are removed....sounds alot better to me then some people getting bots and others getting humans the first week or 2.
I have lost week 1 the last 2 seasons being matched up against a better team then mine(not that I'am complaining, While others get to play bots. It would be much more fair if there were only humans in the cup games.

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277825.30 in reply to 277825.20
Date: 6/4/2016 7:23:52 PM
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The one game lost to TIE can make a big difference in the long run.

At least the option to set the effort should be removed for cup games then.

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277825.31 in reply to 277825.29
Date: 6/4/2016 7:37:59 PM
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why not a field of 60 instead of 64 then? If there is an uneven amount of humans you could give one lucky person a bot team, but there is no reason to have more then 1 bot team in the field

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