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Agreed

This strategy is great to get other managers in a bid war to fold in exasperation, provided you have the time for it. I have used it several times against other people if they did it first. Typically the same people come with BB-mails crying about it and how they really want the player or trainer and I tell them they asked for it and after the next unsolicited email I will report them for spamming.

I have managed to bid a couple of times with 0 seconds remaining, maybe that should be made impossible.

The solution was simple: create an autobid system and do not extend the auction (or reduce the time from 3 minutes to 1). Users said no, so they must enjoy tactics like this. When they do it themselves. When someone else does it to them the whine and cry.

This is usually done for one of two reasons. The first possibility is that it's a resolve check. The last minute bid looks to either swipe a player from a distracted manager or increase the chance the competing manager will start making emotional decisions rather than rational ones. Usually, whoever stays calm wins regardless of who had the winning bid.

The second possibility is that the US represents the third-largest population on BB. Statistically speaking, at least half of all Americans have made the mistake of listening to soft rock. By the time a decision is made on what kind of shrug that Michael McDonald song warranted, it's too late. The Eagles are up playing "Take It to the Limit" and now there is no reality in which that song is not stuck in your head. So while you have 3 minutes left in your auction, half of all Americans are begging Randy Meisner to shut it for 5 seconds so they can find a guard on the TL to shore up the defense. The only advantage you have as a competing manager is that the bidding strategy/lyrics are online explaining exactly what is going through their head.

In my experience, it's always one of those two reasons.

Michael McDonald is the musical equivalent of my mercurial SG, great in small doses in a supplemental role IE when MM used to sing backup for Steely Dan, or when Warren G sampled him for regulate. But as a focus he is absolutely the s**ts Saw him open for the Dan back in 2006, well saw is stretching it, suffered is a better description. I like what a friend of mine said 30 years ago, when he left his spot with The Dan to go to the Doobie brothers it made both bands worse. Then again we can also put the Dan into the equation with the Eagles since the line from hotel California "they stab it with their Steely knives but they just can't kill the beast" was a wink and a nod to the line from The Dan's "Everything you did" which is a song about a man confronting his woman about a affair where he says to "turn up the eagles the neighbors are listening" . And that boys and girls is your 70's classic hits history lesson for the day!

Last edited by Coach Lambini at 7/14/2019 10:19:19 AM

Usually, whoever stays calm wins regardless of who had the winning bid.

Usually at least 2 people waste their lifetime because of it. I don't see the advantage of virtues like patience in this mechanic. In fact, this is one of the many very outdated mechanincs that BB suffers from. We basically play a game, that works almost excatly as it did in 2008. Think about that. Crazy thought if you ask me.

Get rid of the 3 minute extension, no one needs that. Guys that are around long enough have plenty of experiences where a bidwar took 30-45 minutes of your life. For no reason, it didn't made the game better in any form. It was just another wearisome occurence in BB. It's long overdue to implement a max-bid mechanic. The very least thing to do would be to cut the time extention(s!), or cap it at 3 extentions, something like that.

And what after 3 extensions? You have 3 people raise the bid with 1 second left. Who gets him?

Or a blind bid? After so many extensions, a box asks you how much you're willing to pay for him. Timer counts down to 0 and highest bid gets the player?

3 minutes is too long. Especially when you have a douche who literally will just wait 2m55s after every bid you make to re-raise it. For no other reason than to time waste. Why not 1 minute. Plenty of time to make up your mind and hit 1 (or 2 to confirm) buttons.

Last edited by U21 CAN Cletus at 7/15/2019 8:14:37 PM

After the 3rd time extention the auction ends. But that's just an alternative solution, as I said, I prefer the auctions without any extentions. Let the players place a maximum bid (obviously hidden maximum) and the problem with players, bidding last second to expand the auctions over and over again, is solved.

It's essentially an autobid function: it was already proposed and voted down, although it makes all the sense in the world. The bad thing is that many staff members were in favour and the only remotely reasonable argument against it was loss of income due to ads. Tbh they should have just gone ahead without poll, like they did with a number of other even less unpopular changes, but Marin is Marin.

I watched a bid war yesterday for fun. The player was “estimated at 300k-450k” or so. The final winning bid was 1.9 Million or so. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are a lot of players on the market that say they are worth “2.5 mil” but nobody would pay more than a million for. There are others on the opposite end of that spectrum that are estimated at “500k” and people would pay 2 million for. It’s all in the futures. If you see a guy with a solid base and he fits into what you are training the sky is the limit. Now if you see a guy that obviously should be worth 100k, you wouldn’t be smart to place a bid of 1 million. That is when it looks like you are just moving money from team to team. It’s pretty obvious when you see it. A 28 year old player with “Strong” in all guard skills and the estimate says 50-100k and yet the opening bid is for 800,000. Nobody else would even pay close to that and the guy is 28 and doesn’t have any future potential growth that would ever make him worth that amount. The same player at 20 with HOF potential may be worth 800k to someone because over the next 4 or 5 seasons you could train him into a 2 million dollar player. The devil is always in the details.

On a side note, I think having a “Buy it now” price would be amazing. That way owners can be assured to get exactly what they want, unless nobody wants to pay that amount, and auctions can’t be kept on and on and on. It also gives the little guy a chance to get a player they want without having to overpay like they would if they got into a bidding war with someone who has been hoarding money for seasons and is just spending to spend. If the little guy wants to spend his life fortune on a 2.5 million dollar players he should get the chance without having to worry about needing at least 3 million to try to get that same player. I don’t know how many countless times I bid the maximum and it really should be the maximum on said player, just to be outbid by someone with more money, even though the guy really doesn’t have the potential to be worth more. Some people just bid more to be jerks or just to piss you off or just because they are bored. Then I end up seeing the same player for sale a few weeks later.

Last edited by AIRFORCE1 at 7/17/2019 3:22:29 PM

"Buy now" is grossly unfair to people who have a life and cannot be on here 20 hours a day to scour for cheap players to buy now.

With 3,4,5 day selling periods, people have more of a shot of getting the player they want.

Of course, the ending bid time still looms large, because you could be at work, traveling, sleeping, doing something other than hovering over a keyboard on a fictional game with bid wars that keep going and going and going every 3 minutes.