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Of course I stand by this suggestion because it would benefit "me" (you don't know how little I care about Draft in Spain as I train 0 players from this country), the same way you don't like because you have other purposes in BB. Where's the problem?
Furthermore, since you tried to "make fun" of my team and my poor results... Yes, I'm a very bad manager when it comes to compete, so I don't like it. I only play BB to train young players. Guilty.

If you can't see that this suggestion would benefit globally more people that don't, there's not much more to talk about. More young player = more motivated managers to train = more managers staying in the game = more Supporters acquired. And of course, more good players will become on more good teams.

It seems you have the need to be always right. Chill out, man. It's only a couple of suggestions. BB Staff will do whatever prefer, as it has been throughout it's life. We, managers, didn't have any option to decide anything ever.
I was familiar with your game in the Forums(specially from few years back), but the past weeks were even harder to talk to you.

I read the messages and your suggestions, you have a very passive-agressive way of writing, if you want to be understood better I would suggest to tone down that attitude and actually focus on writing about pros and cons of this suggestion, instead of bloated messages and false affirmations like "only rich players are against this suggestion".

Regarding this suggestion, let's enumerate a few points we can discuss, with current draft situation:~

- 58 TSP HoF'ers would easily go for 1.5M before the draft skill boosted the 19 year old age tier.

Now we regularly see GREAT HoF'ers going for 500k-800k unless they have a very specifically sought build.

So we are already talking about a reduction of 3x in original player prices in a few seasons, plus now we have way more players to pick up from the transfer list due to the boost to the 19y/s.

I have been scouting and I can easily find GREAT trainess for incredibly cheap (MVP+) that could also reach my national team if traind properly.


- How will your suggested change really impact the market, specifically draftee prices, at the moment?

We already saw a huge reduction in player prices, I repeat, even newbies like me can easily afford great superstar draftees for their teams (MVP/HOF).

You are suggesting that the market be flood with draftees from bot teams, do you understand the implications of this? What are you suggesting is that draftees should become worthless due to the sheer numbers of draftees that would come from bot teams.

I agree that maybe, in leagues where there are 1 or 2 bot teams MAXIMUM due to users who became botified, should not have first picks in draft if they end last. But no more than that. Users in leagues where there are more than 2 bot teams should not benefit from this.


- Nobody said draft guarantees you great players

This is a basketball sim, just like in real life, you never know what can come from the draft each season, it's based on luck, you don't deserve great players just because you tanked and sacrificed a season. When a user sacrifices a season to end up last, or many draft points, they willingly accept that the draft can be good or bad.



- Micronations

I see that you are managing a micronation, let me ask you this, if bot teams start to release drafted players in the market, how do you think it will impact micronations? Positively or negatively?

Let me answer my opinion: VERY NEGATIVELY.

For every good Andorrean player that would be released from nations of Europe, 100 good polish draftees would be released, 100 of spanish players would be released, 100 of USA players would be released, 100 of Italian players would be released.

Now let me ask you, who do you think people will try to train to eithe sell for profit or try to reach NT, micronations players or polish/italian/spanish?

I think you know the answer to this question.


So my opinion on this suggestion is a VERY BIG no.

Hey, putting young people on the transfer list is unfair. A manager investing in the draft in a given league has no chance of selecting a legend because you want to take him over and put him up for sale. this is not fair play towards teams with a small budget who will not be able to afford to buy such a star. A rich man will buy this star, train him, sell it for a higher price and become even richer. That's the point. Where is the thrill of choosing when you know you won't get a star? so where?

I've had such a wish many seasons ago after seeing out ATG and HOFs fall to bots and human teams drafting only MVPs. But I've never suggested it, because it's not really healthy for the game (points have been brought up by several people here so I won't repeat them) and I'm pretty sure even if no one objected to it, the devs wouldn't even implement it.

But reading this thread make me think:
How about we omit 5 potential players from the top draft choice of bots? If the default draft order of all teams are different, then just omitting it from the top pick itself should guarantee that no bots draft any 5 potential players in the first round. If there is a chance 2 or more bots to have the same top draft choice, then it's still okay, because the possibility of two bots having the same draft order is low, and if they do end up that way, the second choice might still not be a 5 potential player, and even if it is, it would solve the problems of teams winning and still getting a solid trainee.

IMO this should be the most balanced and natural way to reduce the chances of our high potential players going to bots.

Hobsoniusz, it's a pity there aren't more of us. And important things are decided by incompetent people. Ehh, this game could be perfect, but why should it be good? Ehh, that's a shame