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324656.21 in reply to 324656.20
Date: 8/25/2024 6:08:23 PM
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At this point... Should we ask for his resignation from whatever position he has?
I feel that there are many times that I read complaints about him in the Forums or in Discord, and seeing how he acts (as if he were the person in charge of the game), I think that he does not bring anything good to the game and that it is time for him to give a step aside or BB-Marco removes him from being part of the BB-team.

I'm sorry to be the one who had to say it, but I'm convinced that beyond his country and among other GMs (and maybe not even these ones), they don't tolerate him that much...

And no, I'm not hating on him for no reason. I'm convinced that we could make a compilation thread of all his out-of-place posts. And obviously, this should be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

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324656.23 in reply to 324656.16
Date: 8/26/2024 3:33:49 AM
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It makes it really hard for me to want to promote BuzzerBeater via the YouTube channel and X/Twitter when a CM/GM/BB (whatever Alonso's role is now) is consistently trying to ruin the BB-experience. Alonso is creating an unwelcoming, toxic, unsafe, and hateful environment for the BuzzerBeater community and new managers.

This is not the first, second, third, etc. time that Alonso has done things like this either.

The vagueness of his role is a problem as is, which this thread proves, as not all managers will even realize how much influence he has on the game under the new ownership. Alonso's role needs to be clearly denoted and communicated to the BB community and we need to see that he is being held to some sort of standard, especially when he does inexcusable things like this.


I guess most of the active managers could subscribe this message word by word. Even if we don´t consider the "nazism issue", it´s far clear that this guy, Alonso, is constantly subtracting.

It´s also hard to understand how new owners can consider mutism as a solution for all this as it shows such a bad global image, starting by lack of seriousness and a dubious organizational chart in front of a community that is already trembling with the new ownership.

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324656.24 in reply to 324656.23
Date: 8/26/2024 2:36:40 PM
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The combination of "Adolf" "88" and "אדולף" is understandably deeply inappropriate.

As a member of the BB-Team, Alonso holds a position of responsibility, and it’s crucial that these concerns are addressed with transparency.

Even if the intent was to make a joke, such references are not only offensive but also hurtful. It’s important to recognize that it’s not just about intent; it’s about the impact on our community.

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324656.25 in reply to 324656.24
Date: 8/26/2024 6:53:04 PM
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my 2 cents:

who is not able to stand the freedom of speech of other people should not be on internet.

Nobody is really threatened for real by the word "adolf" or the number 88, and nobody will become nazist for a nickname of player in BB. These request of sanction are only irrational reactions (as in this times we all are teached to... because we are not teached to discuss..)

I laugh at the word "inappropriate", what's wrong if you read something you disagree or something bad? The only way to get a personal opinion is face the reality. You should be grateful when you find a place where you can read something different.

PS: I'm anti fascist. That kind of anti-fascism that still remember regimes first move is always to ban FREE speech.

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324656.26 in reply to 324656.24
Date: 8/26/2024 7:18:43 PM
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Personally I understand its a bad joke, in bad taste but not the end of the world. However, the immaturity and complete arrogance to keep insisting on it trying to be "edgy" by masking it is just completely unacceptable coming from someone who forms part (or say they do) of the staff.

I find it unbelievable that no one from the new ownership addresses this, so I for one will vote with the only thing they have shown to care so far... my wallet.

I for one wont renew my supporter while they keep someone in their staff that acts like a man child antagonizing the community. BB-Marco, please come forward and state what this person's role is, if they hold any, and if they do take immediate action.



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324656.28 in reply to 324656.25
Date: 8/26/2024 10:11:45 PM
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PS: I'm anti fascist. That kind of anti-fascism that still remember regimes first move is always to ban FREE speech.

Sounds more like you're a free speech absolutist. Anti-fascists tend to know that in a tolerant society, you must be intolerant to intolerance. We can't just be out there normalizing Nazism.

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Date: 8/27/2024 3:07:39 AM
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The fact of just changing the language thinking that we are stupid or something it’s mad. He doesn’t care a bit about the community thinks, for me he should not be involved in anything relative to manage in BB for a second longer. After everything that he has donde in the past, now doing such a disgusting thing and not regretting about it but laught at our faces it’s wild.

For me it’s clear #AlonsoOut

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324656.30 in reply to 324656.29
Date: 8/27/2024 6:56:51 AM
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If Alonso were not part of the game staff, his 'joke' would bother me, but it would be up to the GMs to decide whether it is sanctionable or not. The problem arises if he is (supposedly) part of the game staff, which would mean that his words represent those of the current owners of BB.

Therefore, if Alonso makes an apology for Nazism, jokingly or not, until there is a clarification from the new staff, I will assume that they do not see anything wrong with this situation and that they are not opposed to the apology for Nazism.

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Date: 8/27/2024 7:15:31 AM
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What really bothers me is the awkward silence from someone on the BB staff.
No GM has even dared to write anything, but let's not lie... If we were talking about some other manager, this thread would already be closed and everything solved.

I was reading the Discord tonight and there was also an accusation towards Alonso, referring to him advising other managers to buy 34-year-old players at the end of last season, before the implementation of the new age-limit of dropping skills.
No evidence, but also no denial... I'm sure someone in his position wouldn't dare to do this, but it's funny that his name always comes up in every case that doesn't bring anything good to the game; we all here have seen some of his posts in Forums of other countries after playing against Israel.

In the end, it's one action after another, which shouldn't matter, but coming from who it's coming from, it's something that shouldn't happen anymore.

Last edited by LA-Gerard (g3rjo) at 8/27/2024 7:27:15 AM

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