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From: GC 30

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166665.211 in reply to 166665.210
Date: 7/12/2011 12:53:16 AM
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Actually, the BBs say that finishing 4th gives more money even if not imediatly, so the 5th place is a fake advantage or a aparent one. So the game itself does not incourage anyone to be 5th, it's more of a users common knowledge that may be wrong.

I have my doubts as well but for us it's impossible to claim one or another cause we don't see clearly both effects, just the BBs can run the simulations, or not who knows.

Anyway, it's a lot better than it was and if people have a problem with that maybe they need to give some other alternatives.

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Date: 7/12/2011 3:52:01 AM
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They are defending a lot of things that seem to need a remodeling, I am not convinced by their arguments.

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166665.213 in reply to 166665.211
Date: 7/12/2011 8:00:53 AM
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ctually, the BBs say that finishing 4th gives more money even if not imediatly, so the 5th place is a fake advantage or a aparent one. So the game itself does not incourage anyone to be 5th, it's more of a users common knowledge that may be wrong.

I have my doubts as well but for us it's impossible to claim one or another cause we don't see clearly both effects, just the BBs can run the simulations, or not who knows.

Anyway, it's a lot better than it was and if people have a problem with that maybe they need to give some other alternatives.

You can't group all teams together...For example...Team A has a 250K roster, finishing in 4th would be great...Now my friends team in Team B...900K salaries and he finishes in 4th and loses to Sharman in the JBBL playoffs...so he makes 33% of 600K which is 200K but still has to pay 700K...so finishing in 5th would have been better for him...so sometimes finishing in 5th would be better than 4th..

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Date: 7/12/2011 4:15:41 PM
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I know that if I try to answer this post in english, I will be misunderstood again, so I'll leave it like that...

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166665.217 in reply to 166665.215
Date: 7/12/2011 4:26:29 PM
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That's a shame !

Can't you only clarify you didn't mean that the BBs were knowingly misleading or lying ? That would be nice :)

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Date: 7/12/2011 4:50:19 PM
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They are definitely not lying, but misleading if they want to convince us that 4th place is always the preferrable option compared to 5th.

I think there are plenty of situations where tanking for fifth is financially more successful than fighting for fourth.

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Date: 7/12/2011 5:16:58 PM
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It's maybe a better option in some cases for teams with very high wages, it also depends on how many games you have to tank.

Since we don't have actual numbers or precise knowledge of how attendance and merchandising are calculated, I don't know how someone can challenge what was stated by the BBs even though I find it dubious too.


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Date: 7/12/2011 6:10:39 PM
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The problem is related only to the top divisions of the top countries where there is no way to earn the same money if you finish in 4th position, neither in 3td position in the 99% of the matches. That's it, no discussions about it, check the salary and the revenue of this first match and compare the numbers.

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166665.221 in reply to 166665.213
Date: 7/12/2011 8:07:37 PM
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ctually, the BBs say that finishing 4th gives more money even if not imediatly, so the 5th place is a fake advantage or a aparent one. So the game itself does not incourage anyone to be 5th, it's more of a users common knowledge that may be wrong.

I have my doubts as well but for us it's impossible to claim one or another cause we don't see clearly both effects, just the BBs can run the simulations, or not who knows.

Anyway, it's a lot better than it was and if people have a problem with that maybe they need to give some other alternatives.

You can't group all teams together...For example...Team A has a 250K roster, finishing in 4th would be great...Now my friends team in Team B...900K salaries and he finishes in 4th and loses to Sharman in the JBBL playoffs...so he makes 33% of 600K which is 200K but still has to pay 700K...so finishing in 5th would have been better for him...so sometimes finishing in 5th would be better than 4th..


Now if your friend actually won his game at the end of the season (instead of tanking with 3 players) he would have finished 3rd... beaten you then lost to me and in the process made 400k!

So in this case it's his own fault!!


Last edited by Superfly Guy at 7/12/2011 8:09:52 PM

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