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40617.217 in reply to 40617.211
Date: 8/3/2008 9:51:48 AM
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Of course, no-one had advanced knowledge that the attendance formula will be changed to favor huge arenas, but gate receipts will be taxed. This is a severe overhaul of the status quo, which totally kills teams who chose not to invest every free dollar in seats.


Maybe I missed this, but how is the attendance formula changes going to now favor huge arenas to the extent you're claiming? Charles stated in the news that:

"While the new attendance formula will leave the global average attendance in the same spot, the opponent's fan base will have a larger impact, which will result in higher-division teams seeing slightly higher attendance."

I don't see how "slightly higher" in the highest taxed division means death to teams that didn't spend every free dollar in their arena.

Last edited by brian at 8/3/2008 9:52:20 AM

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Date: 8/3/2008 9:56:00 AM
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Also assume that under the new rules, all teams can pull 20,000 spectators, but will be taxed 25% of their income. The figures are obviously not meant to be precise here, but it is a scenario in principle.

Simple math shows that team A faces a 7% immediate net increase in income, while team B faces an immediate net decrease of 25%.


Simple math based on an assumption of a 25% increase in attendance. I haven't seen this kind of large increase in attednance stated anywhere (though I've prob missed more then a few posts in this thread).

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Date: 8/3/2008 9:59:14 AM
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However it seems that it would damage new countries or countries with not so high volume of users/teams, because these teams have no builded arena, which in fact compensate that taxes, it is a main income.


New countries also have much less competition to gain top level amounts of season ticket holders. It costs less in the players needed to win, so I don't understand why there should be exclusions to the rule.

Attendance might be 1/3rd of what established top teams make, but so will wages.



so does this mean that teams in these countries should just compete with their domestic rivals and give up any hope of competing in the BB3?

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40617.221 in reply to 40617.220
Date: 8/3/2008 10:18:17 AM
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If i was a 1 or 2 year old team, I wouldn't be expecting to compete with teams that are 4-5 years old.

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Date: 8/3/2008 10:21:54 AM
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In the example above, the team with the large arena will always be penalized for less than the full amount of the gate receipt tax, while the team with the small arena will eat all of it.


It's a bad example of two extremes. Not every established team over-expanded their arena, and not every new team under-expanded. It doesn't make sense to double your arena in the first season, but it also doesn't make sense to not expand at all when there's so many established examples of where you attendance will go at that level.

Last edited by brian at 8/3/2008 10:25:23 AM

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Date: 8/3/2008 10:23:58 AM
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I'm failing to understand how you're coming to this conclusion.

This affects a 2 season old team in a top division that failed to expand at all slightly more then others, not exactly forward thinking there.

Last edited by brian at 8/3/2008 10:24:47 AM

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Date: 8/3/2008 10:29:12 AM
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If i was a 1 or 2 year old team, I wouldn't be expecting to compete with teams that are 4-5 years old.


Understood - so do you encourage them to hoard cash and then only spend when they can compete?

Getting knocked out in round 1 after shelling out a load of cash would hurt you but the objective wouldnt be to win it.... the objective might be 4 rounds of cash and extra training to get your roster developing faster than your main peers.

Bottom line is that for the forseeable future those that are in Div1 with small stadiums will find it more difficult to aspire to anything other than competing domestically and I think this is a shame.....

Everyone likes to see an underdog get a favourable draw and progress as much as possible - the new taxes have acted as a strong enough deterrent for this to now be impossible.

Last edited by Superfly Guy at 8/3/2008 10:31:43 AM

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