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93604.217 in reply to 93604.216
Date: 6/18/2009 7:51:08 AM
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Building a 20k arena wasn't a fault in div I, the return are really good, but i suppose that the changes won't get then to resize their arena - so you are off the point with the income.

You suppose, but you really have no idea. Wait and see what happens. Like I said, none of your posts explains why, having already earned money from the seats you built, you should get a full return of their value regardless of how much you earned.


nothing explain why the fan support should about night ;)

So it must be a fair solution, and this is at least 100% money back for a real fair game better don't change it, or wait 8-9 seaons do give people with a solid strategy time to get their succes out of it ;)

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93604.218 in reply to 93604.217
Date: 6/18/2009 8:05:59 AM
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nothing explain why the fan support should about night ;)

That's irrelevant and doesn't address the point.

So it must be a fair solution, and this is at least 100% money back for a real fair game better don't change it, or wait 8-9 seaons do give people with a solid strategy time to get their succes out of it ;)

You've been playing for seven seasons. You've had plenty of time to earn money from most of the seats in your arena. You still haven't addressed the point I made directly, even after all this discussion. In effect, you just want a no-interest loan.

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93604.219 in reply to 93604.218
Date: 6/18/2009 8:15:32 AM
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So it must be a fair solution, and this is at least 100% money back for a real fair game better don't change it, or wait 8-9 seaons do give people with a solid strategy time to get their succes out of it ;)

You've been playing for seven seasons. You've had plenty of time to earn money from most of the seats in your arena. You still haven't addressed the point I made directly, even after all this discussion. In effect, you just want a no-interest loan.


please look how many seats i ahve in the past ;) And repeat it, if i know this change too season, ago, wi wouldn't have invest that much money in the arena ;)

But it seem to be necessary with the actual system, and now i got punish for doing things right? i got less succes, and get a weaker position then team who are going for short term?

You didn't esxplain that for me.

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93604.220 in reply to 93604.212
Date: 6/18/2009 9:41:39 AM
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Some people made a decision to supersize their arenas, paying lots and getting lots in return. Now they want 100% return on seats they used because it is supposedly going to be harder to fill their arenas.

Just before they introduced the potential change in the game, I invested several million dollars in decent players, then watched their value plummet because their potential was only all-star. Why do I not receive a full reimbursement for them? Had I known that change was coming I never would have spent money on them. This seems to be a fairly parallel argument, and it is ridiculous.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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93604.221 in reply to 93604.220
Date: 6/18/2009 11:25:06 AM
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Some people made a decision to supersize their arenas, paying lots and getting lots in return. Now they want 100% return on seats they used because it is supposedly going to be harder to fill their arenas.

Just before they introduced the potential change in the game, I invested several million dollars in decent players, then watched their value plummet because their potential was only all-star. Why do I not receive a full reimbursement for them? Had I known that change was coming I never would have spent money on them. This seems to be a fairly parallel argument, and it is ridiculous.


i don't like this change too, but did you want to make all changes punishing lots of players?

Dpon't you think you scare people, playing buzzerbeater any longer if you make every two seson major change in strategy, and making it unpredictable what is good in future?


Last edited by CrazyEye at 6/18/2009 11:26:44 AM

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93604.222 in reply to 93604.218
Date: 6/18/2009 1:14:45 PM
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none of your posts explains why, having already earned money from the seats you built, you should get a full return of their value regardless of how much you earned.


Man just a very simply answer.


When you plan to increase your arena seats you also consider that it will be generate benefeits after 2 o 3 seasons... and noone expect to receive this benefeits the first season the build them.

so the BB's considered "Fair" to give some chances to get some of your money back. I see it as simple as it is.

Howl to the Moon, you won't regret it.
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93604.223 in reply to 93604.222
Date: 6/18/2009 1:32:18 PM
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They should get money back but not all of it. They already made there money the last few years when other could not afford to build or did not do so. They should not be able to cash out a few thousand seats because they cant fill them in anymore. Give 65% of their money is fair giving 100% is unfair to other users who were not in the position to build at that time.

Plus all of a sudden they sell 500 seats and have money to but the player your bidding on. Why because they had a bigger arena then you did.

If i knew about these changes i would have bought a player or 2 less and built my arena instead and i would be in better shape today.

You got to know when to hold em, know when to fold em, Know when to walk away and know when to run. You never count your money when youre sittin at the table. Therell be time enough for countin when the dealins done.
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93604.224 in reply to 93604.223
Date: 6/18/2009 2:19:27 PM
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i'm pretty sure you're kidding me.

so 2 years ago (seasons i think you would say) yo think 100 000 coins are equal to 100 000 coins today?

yeah ... i will not say anything else... if you didn't invest isn't other faults

Howl to the Moon, you won't regret it.
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93604.225 in reply to 93604.221
Date: 6/18/2009 9:11:04 PM
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I really don't agree. I am not scared by these changes. I welcome them. I know that this is still the infancy or toddler stage of this game so I expect changes to come and ( like I have said before ) am not making any long-term moves until I see a sort of equilibrium reached. If I lose some dough because potentials change or have to downgrade my arena, so what? It is part of the game and, in fact, simulates the unexpected bumps in the road that any GM faces in owning and managing a sports franchise.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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93604.226 in reply to 93604.225
Date: 6/19/2009 12:12:15 AM
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I really don't agree. I am not scared by these changes. I welcome them. I know that this is still the infancy or toddler stage of this game so I expect changes to come and ( like I have said before ) am not making any long-term moves until I see a sort of equilibrium reached. If I lose some dough because potentials change or have to downgrade my arena, so what? It is part of the game and, in fact, simulates the unexpected bumps in the road that any GM faces in owning and managing a sports franchise.


Come on mate.. you arent making long term moves yet you and I have been playing this game since late 2007..... thats over 18months and you arent prepared to stick your neck out and make decisions thru fear of them being incorrect????

i cant imagine playing this for the rest of my life!! Are you going to just 'outlast' the whole of the competition or wait for the game to be so harmonious with your ideals before you commit to making decisions...

its like the stockmarket... you lose more money from not being in than being in......
I cant see which decisions you are holding back from making anyway....what are you waiting to decide on doing and based on what are you not willing to commit?

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93604.227 in reply to 93604.226
Date: 6/19/2009 1:47:32 AM
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Well, in truth, the reason I am not making any long-term plans is that I just don't think about it very much. I just sort of bounce along. I'm not scared of being incorrect. I have no burning desire to daytrade my way to the top or argue for construction cost restitution or single position train 18 year old hall of famers or whatnot, so I am obviously making incorrect decisions all the time. I'm just arguing this point because it seems crazy for people to be getting so bent out of shape about changes to a game that's still so young, and I think giving back 100% of the money is wrong.

And you are absolutely right about not seeing which decisions I'm holding back from- I don't see any either.

As far as the stock market goes I've never bought or sold a single share of stock in my life. I have no interest in it at all.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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