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From: ned

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152075.218 in reply to 152075.1
Date: 7/28/2010 12:34:22 PM
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What is the difference if all of you league affords salaries 800k, or 200k?


I seriously didn't think someone can write this but I spend some minutes for an answer. If you've to spend 800k/week and your income is 800k/week, you're not saving money = you cannot spend money on the TL cause you don't have money. I'm right?
On the other hand there is another division that spend 200k/week; if my calculation is correct that division can save more or less 600k/week compare to the first one league = money on pocket that can be spent on the TL whenever they want.
You can give me now 2 options here:
1. You've to spend less than 800k/week then
1. Answer: Yes but probably you'll go back in second division (and that's a big economic damage)
2. You've more income than me cause you're in Italy
2 Answer: Unfortunately these economic differences aren't so big, in some fist divisions you can find BOT, that's the infinity discussion since season 3

Can you tell me when my logic fails? I've explained where your logic fails. No flames here but I'm sure you've to think a while before to write that someone has 10yo, that has lower logic and some other offenses (I'm not referring to you in this case ;)

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152075.219 in reply to 152075.187
Date: 7/28/2010 12:39:47 PM
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. you talk about global economy, bu what you really want, is that italian div 3 gets more money. money shouldnt be free - you have to earn them by wining and training, not by whining.

Yes,I want more money for Italian 3 division...but not because I want to have any advantage from any other team of my league or because we want to be "recommended" by someone

We are training better than the large part of the users in the BB world,we have the most competitive teams,but we are unable to save money because the incomes are capped at a too low leve for the competitivity in our league.And you can't say"You have to lower your level if you want to have money",because this would mean to be relegated in the lower divisions,so having much less money for incomes

I'm talking about global economy,because our team are too weak in the global economy,not because our manager are not very skilful(why in other countries the managers buy so much italian players?),but because there's a bad system that doesn't reward the competitivity of the teams,as happened in every sport system(that's why my countrymates take the example of Inter and Ekranas).BBs had to have a system that allows weaker countries to become stronger,but this system doesn't have to be against many other managers as the actual system do

More money doesn't mean to have advantages over the others users of my league,but let us to have more strategy available,as i say in my previous post (152075.183)

And I don't understand why,if I had to play only against my league mates,you should take care if we have more money for us

And we want a more fair system,because we want a system not based on the number of the users,and country population,but only on the competitivity of the team,that should be the goal of the game(if you wan to be the best,you have to be the more competitive team).

And the users of the other competitive countries should do the same speech with the same arguments,so it's not only a matter of being italian,spanish,or of every country

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 7/28/2010 12:45:50 PM

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152075.221 in reply to 152075.216
Date: 7/28/2010 1:01:31 PM
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ah nevermind,this is ugly

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Date: 7/28/2010 1:05:31 PM
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See how much you make in the arena...

From: ned

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Date: 7/28/2010 1:05:42 PM
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Also imho we are ot but maybe not. If in 20.000 users "actives" half of them don't have money probably the TL will suffer a little bit this aspect, maybe the reason is that some users quitted the game dunno about it but all the posts in this thread are in some way related to the economy (so imho the discussion changed the focus but is not stopped)

Edit: answered to your previous post about the Italians that stopped the discussion...

Last edited by ned at 7/28/2010 1:07:17 PM

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Date: 7/28/2010 1:30:24 PM
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27/07/2010 Campionato contro trippla $ 159 835


It's nearly the same that you,but I have to pay 266k salary,while you are paying much less than me


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Date: 7/28/2010 1:37:09 PM
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27-07-2010 Liga contra Deixasiroubatesduas $ 183 895


And I raised the prices so I'm sure the number will go up soon. 30k makes the difference. You should gain way more than me because I pay less. Simple

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Date: 7/28/2010 1:39:09 PM
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So basically what should happen is:
There is a country with VI divisions and a country with II divisions, the first division of the latter should get the amount of money equal to what the fifth or fourth division of the first country gets.

Not in this measure,that surely would be too drastic...but the system should be work,with the basilar idea of the TV contract and merchandising...the problem is that the main source of incomes surely come from the palace,it should be change the cap on arena attendence,looking at the competitivity(NOT ONLY AT THE SALARIES!) of the country and of the various leagues of the same country


I personally don't care about other international leagues,or about the reduction of the player with high potential,I care about whai I need to manage my team,that's why I want some change in economy

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Date: 7/28/2010 1:42:46 PM
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27-07-2010 Liga contra Deixasiroubatesduas $ 183 895


And I raised the prices so I'm sure the number will go up soon. 30k makes the difference. You should gain way more than me because I pay less. Simple

How much do you think to earn more?180 is around the max you can earn in a III division,and to have 30k more than me you spend much more than me on palace bulidng luxury place,30k doesn't make great difference...
The real differecne between our economic situation is about the salaries of the players,and the difference is much greater than 30k...

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Date: 7/28/2010 1:47:31 PM
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My thoughts and suggestions about:


1) World Superstars

I like idea of reducing high-potential players. This is also realistic:
The number of players who are members of an NBA team are more than 400.
Every team has 3-4 ''benchwarmers'' and ''announcers'', 5-6 ''role players'' and ''Sixth'' ones, and 5 ''starters''
Only 24 of the ''Starters'' make the ''Allstar'' team.
Of the 24 ''Allstars'' only the 15 are ''Superstars''.
From those 15 only 7-8 take awards at the end of the season (those are the ''MVPs'').
And from these 8 players only 4 or 5 will make the ''Hall of Fame''. However, we can't remember all the ''Hall-Of-Famers''. But we will remember this ''All-Times-Great'' one!

So, from 500 NBA players there are:

60 announcers
60 benchwarmers
90 Role Players
90 Sixth Players
150 Starters
24 Allstars
15 Superstars
8 MVPs
5 Hall of Famers
2 All Time Greats

So, from 50.000 BB players there should be:
6.000 announcers
6.000 benchwarmers
9.000 Role Players
9.000 Sixth Players
15.000 Starters
2.400 Allstars
1.500 Superstars
800 MVPs
500 Hall of Famers
200 All Time Greats


2) Gap between the Divisions
I think that the bonus given to a team that promotes should be high so that the team can be competitive in the new league by acquiring 2-3 players:

Countries with V or more Divisions for more than 3 seasons
Promoting to Div I ---> $5 000 000
Promoting to Div II ---> $2 500 000
Promoting to Div III ---> $1 500 000
Promoting to Div IV ---> $750 000
Promoting to Div V ---> $300 000
Promoting to any lower Div ---> $150 000

Countries with V or more divisions
Promoting to Div I ---> $3 000 000
Promoting to Div II ---> $1 500 000
Promoting to Div III ---> $1 000 000
Promoting to Div IV ---> $300 000
Promoting to Div V ---> $150 000
Promoting to any lower Div ---> $50 000

Countries with IV divisions for more than 3 seasons
Promoting to Div I ---> $2 000 000
Promoting to Div II ---> $1 000 000
Promoting to Div III ---> $500 000

Countries with IV divisions
Promoting to Div I ---> $1 000 000
Promoting to Div II ---> $500 000
Promoting to Div III ---> $200 000

Countries with III or less divisions
Promoting to Div I ---> $800 000
Promoting to Div II ---> $500 000

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