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Oh no! Anyway... :D

So, who's expecting to actually win their tiers?

Still people think this pointless tournament shouldn't be cancelled?

Nope, this has been a great little addition. Just tank for the first seven weeks then it won't be a problem for you, but don't spoil it for the rest of us.
What exactly is wrong with it and how is it hurting you?

Sanchez is the new Wolph. They might not even believe most of the things they say, but say it anyway because being the forum heel is fun for them. I don't understand the logic though. At least when I get into huge internet fights (which is often) I actually mean the things I say.

You only need ten seconds to take a look at my last BBX? game and you will realize I mean what I say.

It is so easy sometimes not to throw undeserved shit at people, but there are some people that enjoy doing that, even if they know his shit is false. I don't understand why.

Sanchez is the new Wolph.

Really? He didn't comment on a post from 10 years ago LOL

Wolph was the guy who repeated again and again that everything in BB is OD and IS?
Because it happens that that unbalance has been up to some point finally fixed.

I mean, I don't mind being called a troll or compared to another troll. We do our thing. That's much better than being the average little lamb.

I enjoy BBM a lot, but I think there's still a problem that should be adressed - the team ratings and the gap between some of us.

I know we've been told, that in the upcoming season the "rating reset" will happen in a different manner, so that the teams would be arranged according to the correct tier. However, that fixes only a small bit of the problem.

I'm currently in Tier 3, meaning I'm supposed to play against teams rated 2048 - 3072. Here are some teams that are yet to be beaten:

(96734) 2033 - 770 | 1kk salaries.
(44977) 2249 - 489 | 1kk salaries.
(177409) 2130 - 991 | 616k salaries. (this one's rather fair, despite the rating)

3rd place team - 661k salaries.
4th place team - 464k salaries.
5th place team - 1,3kk salaries.
6th place team - 448k salaries.

10th place team - 887k salaries.
14th place team - 685k salaries

Me, a noob with somewhat 400k salaries at 5-1, with a very random-powered loss, and the rest of the unbeaten teams.

Don't know about you guys, but i see some abnormalities here for tier3. Looking at the situation objectively, 4th (!) place team has a sub 1% chance of winning the tournament, because there are opponents that are simply out of his league :)

Meaning, at the start of the PO part, we basically have 3 teams that are predestined to win (with the exception of only 3 other teams that can possibly beat them) and would be equally competetive with the 1st place of tier2.

The point of this post - it's rather unfair. Yes, i do realise, that life is unfair, too :P . But our real life examples of what we're trying to do here, do have some fair play assurements (so that LAL couldn't play with a full all-star lineup and just smack Hornets to oblivion). And we all know the tool for it - a salary cap.

Be it a dynamic cap (team with a bigger salary can only have 150% of the opposing teams salary, if the lower salary is above 350k) or a hard cap of somewhat 650k (numbers of both variants can change according to what the community seems fit. I'm only looking from perspective of T3), I firmly believe such addition to BBM would make it more fun for everyone, especially for the top seeds of tier3 with a regular salary of ~ 500k.


Last edited by Kritulys at 8/12/2021 3:00:12 AM

No, I've just begun my research on it a few hours ago, didn't really bother looking up the abnormalities at the start of the league. We can trace it down by simply looking up his transactions tho :P

I didn't mean to change the system to be salary based, because it would be even more unfair. I find the rating system good as is, except for a lack of restrictions. Also, I'm adressing this to, maybe, find an easy to implement solution to it.

It's a competetive game, so dodging all unfairness is not a possible task (64th and the 1st team won't have a complete 50/50, so it's automatically unfair, but at an acceptable rate), but when top 10 teams don't even have a chance at beating the number one team, well, it's not great. Especially, when the Tier3 mammoths can even compete with an ease when upped a tier (or two, even).

That's why I'd love to see something like a hard salary cap in the games - you can't use players, whos combined salaries exceed X amount. Well, a tier (or an elevated average of sorts) based salary ceiling.

Or if possible, some sort of a relegation/promotion game for the league abnormalities. But I haven't had the time to figure out how that'd work (or if it'd work).

As you've mentioned, since we do get compensation for the games, it's not something I'd be very angry about if it wasn't fixed, however it's something I'd be extremely happy about if it was :P