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158188.22 in reply to 158188.21
Date: 10/10/2010 6:22:05 PM
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Prices on the market not only reflect the player's attributes, but also how much of an asset he can be to your team.
I mean, if a 27 years old is a beast, the only value he's going to give your team is going to be his on-court production.
However, if he's not that good, but is 20 years old, he could be a much more valuable asset to your team because you can make money out of him.

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Date: 10/10/2010 6:26:30 PM
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Toronto Raptors's management don't agree

Actually, as a Raptors fan I know there are a lot of people around the team who think they will benefit from not having 6 more years of Bosh being the franchise player.
He's an exceptional player offensively, but some people feel he isn't a player you can build a team around.
And they got something from losing him. They actually got a draft pick back and a huge trade exception.
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158188.24 in reply to 158188.17
Date: 10/10/2010 7:58:11 PM
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I think you see a problem where none exists.

The best paid players are more often than not, not the best players. The best players are the players with the most skills, not with the highest salary.


If you dont see the difference or imbalance between the trainings-skills around outside players and inside of course then you dont see any problem.

The secundaries skills trained on a outside player are still really cheap related to the effect they have on the game engine, that its usually really high. You can argue that its the same for the inside players, but the fact is that is really easy to train a SG-PG, with 22 years you can have a multiskilled player with a ''low'' salary and if you compare it to an inside player, that player is really difficult you train them on passing, JR, OD etc or it takes much longer...


The training of an outside player is really easier than the one in inside(if we are talking about multiskilled ones), thats the fact i suppose lot of managers only train IS-RE-ID. The only training its ok for them is JS-1vs1 in SF-PF if you consider that 1n1 is important.

Not to talk about small-forwards that are usually trained in all skills, with a 0 cost on secundary skills...


This salary formula is in general really bad and having the TL low doesnt help

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158188.25 in reply to 158188.1
Date: 10/10/2010 9:24:56 PM
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Most of this economic struggle began when they limited arena seating, and removed some teams seats. Teams could make tens of thousands more per home game, and maybe some Top teams won't go bankrupt in a month with high salaried players.

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Date: 10/11/2010 4:26:07 AM
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but they also raise the money which the visitors spend, so the income wasn't that much more and the salary system include the income structure to calculate the salary ;)

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Date: 10/11/2010 6:15:02 AM
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I agree with Naker that nobody says, "You are too good, nobody wants you," but I do think a lot of teams in real life say, "You are too expensive, we don't want you." And then the Yankees or the Lakers or Chelsea buy them.

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158188.28 in reply to 158188.27
Date: 10/11/2010 6:52:09 AM
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But in real life the player chooses their own salary, the best basketball player in the world isn't going to say he should be paid 10 billion dollars because he is really good. Also, I believe teams have salary caps (not 100% sure) in most sports, and so that often limits the salary that a player can have. Obviously the player can't have a salary that is higher than the salary cap, or even close to the salary cap or otherwise he would be the only player on the team.

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Date: 10/11/2010 7:59:45 AM
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They could implement a soft cap, like in the NBA, where if you go over the salary cap, for each dollar you go over, you have to pay one dollar to the league. And I think that the money is redistributed amongst all teams.

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Date: 10/11/2010 9:04:48 AM
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This would make it even more harder for high salary players to find a home.

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158188.31 in reply to 158188.23
Date: 10/11/2010 9:11:41 AM
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Toronto Raptors's management don't agree :P

Actually, as a Raptors fan I know there are a lot of people around the team who think they will benefit from not having 6 more years of Bosh being the franchise player.
He's an exceptional player offensively, but some people feel he isn't a player you can build a team around.
And they got something from losing him. They actually got a draft pick back and a huge trade exception.
(/OFFTOPIC)

Bosh's leaving is really the only good thing the Raptors management did in the last year after the pick of Bargs

When Bosh was in Toronto he didn''t care about defence,so every PF in the league could score 20 against him.It's useless to score 30 points if your adversary can score 30 too,especially in the way Bosh score that points(playing a lot with isolation with low percentages)
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Last edited by Steve Karenn at 10/11/2010 9:14:06 AM

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158188.32 in reply to 158188.28
Date: 10/11/2010 9:21:00 AM
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In real life players can agree to a lower salary. You can not implement this into the game. ATM we have a situation where we have too many of those high salary centers. What people need to understand is - there are different ways to play this game. Some like having one monster player in their team, some like playing with equal players. We have a situation where both versions are possible. We agree that atm if you single position train a good trainee with decent trainer you can reach the max in 3 skills. But this strategy creates a player that takes away most of the teams income. If BB's want to make these players affordable, they can eather lower salary (which they are doing depending on overall skill), or lowering training speed. If you lower training speed, then it becomes a race of who ownes the most "maxed" out players (as you can afford all those "maxed" players). I think we have a great balance at the moment, if you train smartly you get a better team compared to the one monster supporters.
To me a salary that is too high for championship team to manage = bad training (who cares what the NT coaches say).

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