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195429.22 in reply to 195429.20
Date: 9/2/2011 3:55:36 AM
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Kaman make 17 Points and 17 Rebounds yesterday, and 18 Points and 10 Rebounds against israel and he brings more at the defensiv end.

Against Cusin and Bargnani, a notoriously terrible rebounder and bad defender. Let's see how he rebounds against the likes of Joakim Noah.
But Kaman is definitely one of the top 4 centers in the tourney, it's just he can't carry a team defensively a la Tyson Chandler, let alone offensively. He needs good spacing and ball movement to be effective.
Dirk on the other hand can carry Germany on his own shoulders, offensively anyway.

"Air is beautiful, yet you cannot see it. It's soft, yet you cannot touch it. Air is a little like my brain." - Jean-Claude Van Damme
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195429.23 in reply to 195429.22
Date: 9/2/2011 4:14:28 AM
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ok but Bargnani is maybe offensiv one of the most talented and he sstruggled against Kaman(and Nowe) there, and he didn't run things and 17 Rebounds are very good independ from the competion in my eyes(we ain't in the NBA with 48 minutes, and faster possesions).

At the moment and also the last preparation games, he was more important for the german team in my eyes on a very high level so that Dirk shouldn't be offended by it.
But the performance of those two are crucial for the german game.

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195429.24 in reply to 195429.1
Date: 9/2/2011 3:52:54 PM
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awesome game from parker, i know we couldn't control before but that was even better then i feared him to be before.

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195429.25 in reply to 195429.24
Date: 9/2/2011 3:58:42 PM
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Also strange why Dirk and Kaman played so little, but the French imposed a fast tempo and the backup bigmen for Germany were making shots in the 3rd Q so that's probably why they stayed on the bench so long.

"Air is beautiful, yet you cannot see it. It's soft, yet you cannot touch it. Air is a little like my brain." - Jean-Claude Van Damme
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195429.26 in reply to 195429.25
Date: 9/4/2011 4:45:04 PM
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A Comedy Movie from Refrees : Poland-Turkey

Always refrees against Turkey !

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195429.27 in reply to 195429.26
Date: 9/5/2011 7:52:28 AM
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Stats Don't Lie: Poland shot 10 of 22 (45%) from behind the arc while Turkey finished four of 17 (24%). Turkey outrebounded Poland 31-21. Poland stunned Turkey 84-83 with their best performance so far at the EuroBasket to remain firmly in the hunt for a place in the next phase of the competition.


In Polish press release we can read that referees have helped Turkish players especially Turkoglu :)

Last edited by Big Z at 9/5/2011 7:53:17 AM

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195429.28 in reply to 195429.27
Date: 9/5/2011 8:06:29 AM
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Is that a joke ? Polish Press is very funny :D


Stats Don't Lie:1) Turkey had 3 unsportmenlike faul,1 techical faul.
Poland had 1 unsportmenlik faul.

2)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF53CxJufpk Watch this video.
3)And please search Sergey Mikhaylov and Miroslav Tomov 's career :D

Last edited by Guzzz at 9/5/2011 8:07:28 AM

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195429.29 in reply to 195429.28
Date: 9/5/2011 8:13:00 AM
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i didn't watch the game, but basketball always have many decision who can go either way and when you watch a game as a fan you tend to make the line for your team so that close calls you didn't get are obvious mistakes like close calls the opponent gets.
it is not rare when you talk after the game with the fans of the opposing team, that both side have the felling the referee cheated with them - i also recognized this in the maybe biggest german basketball board. But when you read there the critics after televised games, who got rated by neutral fans normally the referees where rated much higher or at least with mistakes in both direction.

Could be the same effect here.

PS: And i am also like that, i always think the referees play against the team i am cheering :)

Edit: even when i really dislike when officials of clubs or NT bring it to the public that they feel the other team get advantage from the referees. This also count for the german officials, who also did this during this tournament.

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195429.30 in reply to 195429.6
Date: 9/6/2011 7:51:08 AM
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...France,...are at least team for me, who have strong team on paper who didn't work that good(France is maybe too athletik, to less finesse for FIBA..


Well I think France made a decent first round so far with 5 wins. In the past years they were plagued with injuries or abscence of key players. Turiaf is missing, but this year they showed more than athletic skills. It was quite an impressive game versus Serbia yesterday.

Yet the competition is still long and they are plenty of good teams still in contention. France schedule with Turkey, Spain and Lithuania is almost insane. Actually the whole Group E is really hard.

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195429.31 in reply to 195429.30
Date: 9/6/2011 8:04:11 AM
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yes i heard it should be a pretty good sadly i didn't seen it.

They also seem to have a consistent shooting touch till now, one thing they missed often in the past. But i am still thinking that france would be stronger with NBA rules, compared to the opposition8and is the ebst team of the 3 mentioned ones)

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195429.32 in reply to 195429.31
Date: 9/9/2011 12:57:13 PM
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Lamonica made some settings and than Germany started play good and won ! Congratulations !

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