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From: ibarix

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On the contrary. You can learn from every situation in life. :)
BTW I think I would shoot 22 threes even against better opposition :))

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Date: 11/21/2011 5:50:11 PM
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so you talking about the nets from 01-03

jason kidd
kittles
richard jefferson
kenyon matrin
van horn?

wouldnt that team be more like....push the ball team?

From: Flamen

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The only NBA team that has played princeton to some degree is Rick adleman's sacramento kings.

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That team and probably you're right. The Sacramento Kings are another good example thanks to Divac and Webber, both great passers.

But, I insist, it's all about the pace. The princeton offense in BB is a slow pace ofense, and the NBA teams tend to run, although several use princeton moves when playing a half court offense or in playoff, when the pace gets a lot slower.

Now Kenyon would be a better fit for princeton in BB, because he is more mental than in that team, that ran a lot more.

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thanks guys for the discussion on princeton offense. what will a real life example be? like what nba is close to that offense?

btw. back to my topic. what would pf and c plays role in a motion offense and what tactics most benefit having good JS for all starters?



i don#t think that they are many NBA teams who run it, the princeton offense got developed in princeton since they always had problems to recruit big men as a small college.

Normally you have one big around the high post, and 4 shooters stretched over the 3 point line which creates room inside, which try to get used with cuts which leads to layups or an easy pass to the inside presence when help comes. Also more 3 pointers since this area is quite crowded ;) Didn't work that bad, when you have a smart team where everyone is dangerous at the perimeter so that the defender couldn't sink down to much(wouldn't be so bad for the C too, when he coud rotate outside and get replaced by the "PF" inside, which maybe leads to a big and slow guy at the perimeter).

At least i learned it that way.

I am not so much into the NBA, but maybe orlando had some plays like that. At least you usually hear, that there is Dwight howard with some shooters around him even when maybe the layup through cuts or penetration isn't the first option and they more try to get three poiners through the attention dwigth get inside.


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From: Flamen

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orlando got to the finals using basic outside iso for turkoglu, and pick and roll with Turkoglu and Howard. Its all been downhill from then.

From: strilfe

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I'd also point that as the offense is so focused on Howard, would be like look inside, and he puts the ball outside when well defended... But probably iso would be teh best way to describe.

From: Flamen

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A couple of examples of real princeton offence.

Outside shot: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0eFXAXbJeY)
post shot: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM07Em4BLGI&feature=re...)

Also, as you can see, princeton has a ton of cutters, so a succesful team will get a lot of layups, so it takes inside shots, but it is not an inside offence.

It also is not a inside/outside offence, which takes the ball inside and kicks it out when the defence collapses. It is a pass and cut, movement offence, for teams without a strong low post presence, where the posibilities are only limited by the imagination of the coach and the execution of the team.

Last edited by Flamen at 11/22/2011 10:05:53 AM

From: Viper52

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wow that is allot of movement for what is saposed to be a slow paced offence... that would tire out a player just as fast as run n gun. execpt the c that is.. i see him standing in one area setting allot of screens. everyone els looks like there bobbin and weaven all over until the defender looses his man. good idea. from that vid it does look a lil like some of the motion plays if seen.

img src="http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n585/Cuacomic/antivenom.jpg"
From: Sharooz

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Nice link flamen, fun to see it in actual action, and yeah it kind of reminds abit of motion as I remember it from playing ball...
As a PF who could do good distance shots it seems like an offense I'd love to play.
Found a game at random here from B3 with the team running princeton losing.
http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/42154691/boxscore.aspx
What do you guys think is the main factor for his loss? Since they're pretty close at rebs,ast, to etc.
I'm thinking worse SF atleast. Since it's suposedly a slower paced offense it suprises me abit how poorly some of his players shot...

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