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Speaking of the draft and training. I figure that I am in the minority of people who do that. Either draft or buy 18s and build build build.

I've always thought giving a slight premium (other than the tax issue) to those who build via the draft would improve that component within the game. Right now you have to be crazy to waste money in scouting when prospects can be had for less than you invest.

I'm not sure if this is exactly what you meant by "tax issue" but while I'm at it, the overextension tax is totally bogus. My team is cash flow neutral (for the first time in a long time ha!) without the tax but that knocks like $20k off my account each week.

Right now you have to be crazy to waste money in scouting when prospects can be had for less than you invest.

I agree, but when there aren't even 4 good draft prospects per draft class, you have to be a bottom dweller in the league to take a chance on investing and spending points to find a quality draft choice. I have spoken to the powers that be about this before...and it blows my mind that their position on this is that having too many quality draft picks would saturate the TL.....

This is crazy though, they have made the draft a non issue, and boring. We live in this era of fantasy sports and people that play fantasy sports live for the draft, but BB totally misses the market on that by making their draft as boring and inconsequential as possible. Even if an upper division team does land a draft pick, with the way things are now, that pick won't even be a quality backup for at least 5 seasons.

In real life, every first round pick makes the team that drafts them, and most 2nd round picks make the team, and a decent handful of undrafted players make teams...However in BB, 80% of teams of have 3 immediate cuts to make following the draft....talk about anti-climatic.

Last edited by Jason at 6/2/2015 6:21:00 PM

They grossly underestimate the majority of the users ability to botch a training program.

Also, maybe the solution is to have more skilled layers with lower potential. I'd love to draft a 2nd rounder who could be like my 10th man that I wouldn't have to bother training.

I dont post often but it’s nice to see some teams in the league sharing the same frustrations that I currently have. Just my 2 cents on a couple topics.

1. The Transfer List is ridiculous right now due to supply and demand. The supply of quality players that can impact a 2 league roster is low which is driving the price way up on all these players that are not about to deteriorate in skill level due to age. This leaves older higher skilled players available and even some of those are outrageously priced. Lets use my player Runkun who is currently listed on the TL. Sure he is a good player but if I were looking to sell him and replace him with similar quality (age and skill points) the price I have listed him at is what I would need to sell him at to replace him with a competitive 2 league PF.

BB is trying to use a Market approach while allowing sellers to dictate value of their players. This helps create more value for sellers due to buyers having little power which is evident by the current TL prices. If you want a quality player you are paying the sellers price. In order to limit the power of the seller, I think BB should use a true market approach and if you want to sell the player have minimum starting bids for like players. In order to do this successfully, BB would need to have a more realistic player comparison tool that evaluates the market for like skilled players on various skill sets and age and defines the minimum value for like players. If an owner decides to list him at that minimum price, then let the competition and bidding for the player begin. This approach would ensure that the seller at least would get minimum value and managers would think twice about throwing players up on the transfer list for ridiculous prices virtually risk free.

I also believe the TL is hurting by the commissions increasing for buys and sells. As a new team coming to the 2 league, my players may not be the quality I need. However, if I sell off players, then I am penalized for future sells (by higher commission) which can prevent people from listing players altogether or causing them to pass the commission on the buyers resulting in higher prices.

2. I completely agree with the draft being a waste of time. I haven’t scouted any draftee’s since the 4 league and I will not waste money scouting them. 1. there are few too quality draftees 2. the starting skill points of draftees will not make a difference at a 2 league level and 3. I agree that the starting skill points and training is so slow that each draftee is at least 3-4 season of training before allowing the draftee to be an impact player. Training draftees used to be my favorite part of the game in the lower leagues but I don’t think twice about it anymore and cut them or sell them right away. (Increasing the garbage players on the TL)

3. Home Court Advantage - HCA seems to be very powerful and unrealistic in this game. Sure, I haven’t been around long enough to know the ins and outs of the game engine and there are more tenured/knowledgable managers than me, but HCA seems to add 10-20 points across the board for each team whether they are a first place team or a last place team sometimes causing the better teams to lose games. (I understand upsets happen) In my opinion this is unrealistic. Take the Cavs and Hawks series for example, the Cavs didn’t give the Hawks 10-20 pts magically when they played in ATL. And using a Football example, the Texans home field advantage is not the same as Seattle’s. I feel BB should use the PR Manager feature to control the HCA. If teams want to spend more for a higher PR Manager then they should get a higher HCA. However, there should be tiers based on levels and if you have a last place team you should have the lower end of the tier for that level.

These are just a couple frustrations I am experiencing and its good to see I am not alone. Just wanted to share some of my thoughts since everyone was posting similar issues.

Add this to my list of grievances...

Just had a 33 year old double negative pop in outside defense from 18 to 16

Well looks like I am getting another 2nd pick in the draft
I am hoping 2 seasons of oD and passing the newbies can hold their ground as backups
Yeah it takes 4-5 seasons to create starters in this league

You're getting roasted with injuries...
And thankfully I get you next

I came up with a program to decode the hidden language within the BuzzerBeater Tactics page...here is what I found:

Strictly Follow Depth Chart (Unless the GE wants to piss you off)

Yep, Jase, that description is perfect. I have a hell of a time getting the desired 48 minutes with my Utopian team;-(