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66644.22 in reply to 66644.21
Date: 1/4/2009 4:52:44 AM
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So than I guess all this translates down to one thing...

Do you want a proper training regime or do you want to try and win all the time giving your star players top minutes and sacrificing training to a degree.

It seems the way that the current all-star lineups are generated, a team that is focusing hard on training a group of players will not have their players present in the AS game even if they are better than the ones chosen. It seems that presently the all-star game rewards managers that don't work as hard at training, game shape etc... instead the teams that put out the same lineup evey game.

Obviously, they still have to put in the stats and performance, which is kind of challenging with low gameshape, and lack of money for roster upgrades.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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66644.23 in reply to 66644.22
Date: 1/4/2009 5:37:52 AM
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In general most teams in the NBA and BB give their star players the most minutes. The teams that don´t for whatever reason and whether it hurts their team or not (this is not relevant to whether a player made it in the BB play offs and what this thread is all about), shouldn´t be suprised that the fans (who vote for the all star team) know little about players that play less minutes and therefore don´t get picked.

The NBA all star vote is not only a pick who is the best player, unfortunatelly it is also a pick who is most favorite under the fans... Again, cant be known and therefore favorite among the fans if you play little or less than other players...

ps my players didnt get picked because they didnt play enough. either i play them more or accept they wont get picked. this counts for the other managers as well, whos better players missed out...

Last edited by Astragoth at 1/4/2009 5:38:49 AM

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66644.24 in reply to 66644.23
Date: 1/4/2009 7:17:25 AM
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If what you say it is right, that I do not doubt at all, how come the 3rd Shooting guard in votes in my league (4208507) , has only played 2 games with my team as I signed him very recently, and he almost made it to the All Star Game.

Any ideas anyone?

PS. The second most voted shooting guard (4556524) is from my team as well, it may have had something to do with that?

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66644.25 in reply to 66644.24
Date: 1/4/2009 7:49:05 AM
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i mean he is 3rd, but a distant distant third.

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66644.26 in reply to 66644.25
Date: 1/4/2009 9:17:39 AM
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I'm kinda surprised to see that the winner of last seasons 3point contest may not even defend his title.

But ok, his .37 3FG% would be just to low to enter it I guess.

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66644.27 in reply to 66644.24
Date: 1/4/2009 9:44:35 AM
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lol i am sure the formula to pick all star players doesnt take into count in which league he made minutes. your guy played a lot this season (maybe not in your league but he did) and that is why he was picked...

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66644.28 in reply to 66644.27
Date: 1/4/2009 9:47:43 AM
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might i add that having all star voting without controversy would not only be unrealistic, but probably not any fun ;)


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66644.29 in reply to 66644.13
Date: 1/4/2009 9:51:08 AM
MightyMice
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I am a bit frustrated about nominations. Yes, my turnover is quite high and there is not as much exposure as other teams. I am currently first in my conference, with highest rank in 3-points shooter and in per-game evaluation, and finally my SF is ranked among top tens in PPG and top-15 in RPG (and this SF played all but one or two games).

No nomination at all... And in my conference's team I noticed a player of a bot ("fedelissimi"), now re-assigned to human.

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66644.30 in reply to 66644.29
Date: 1/4/2009 10:12:57 AM
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so i looked at your players, i dont think you have much of a case for your player
first i will point out that your player did get a nomination, he was 3rd in voting.

second, look at the stats..

the leading vote getter
21 PPG, 8.4 RPG, 1.9 SPG, 47% from the field
also on a team with the same record

the second place vote getter..
19.8 PPG, 10.8 RPG, 1.2 SPG 44% from the field

and finally your player
15.6 PPG, 8.7 RPG, 1 SPG 46% from the field

I dont know.. 5 points more and 2 rebounds more a game is a big gap. Clearly you have no case to be the number 1 vote getter. With regards to the second vote getter, his team has a worse record than yours.. question is how much a difference that makes.

Clearly this isn't blatantly wrong.. maybe controversial... but if it were swapped than whoever was voted out would be up in arms.

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66644.31 in reply to 66644.30
Date: 1/4/2009 10:22:06 AM
MightyMice
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thank for your answer and for the time spent. It makes sense, although, as you stated, may be controversial. On the other side, Benedetto Ruella is 1st as 3 points shooting percentage, 12th in 3-pts shoots. Although just 12th, ASG should have "best" shooters.

Anyway, not a problem to me. ASG is not the main goal of the season, of course. In NBA too, if you are a great player but not the most popular you could not be selected to ASG. It is just an opportunity to understand logic and mechanism of the game.

thank you again

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66644.32 in reply to 66644.31
Date: 1/5/2009 2:57:41 PM
Jokehim Maniacs
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All-star team becomes very strange most of the time. My backup SG was voted in as reserve while my regular was not. None of the SG's and SF's are close to same level as mine in all-star team. But of course reason is that I alternate positions for my players to get best possible training. If I wanted to have optimal number of players in all-star team I would chose players for that purpose instead of training but there is no reason to do so.

By the way, in 3-point shotout 4 players from inactive team will participate of the 6 chosen. A rather strange thing to happen ...

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