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126140.221 in reply to 126140.220
Date: 3/12/2010 1:46:08 PM
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I train big men as well and i always giving my big men at least 1 week JS. Its a good skill to have.

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126140.222 in reply to 126140.221
Date: 3/12/2010 1:50:09 PM
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I disagree. I think in most cases it would be good to train JS, but in this case he has Pitiful JS which would take a long time to get anywhere near a decent level. And even if he did get it up a little bit, the Atrocious JR is killing him. I think you should train the primaries mainly and this will result in pops of JS by itself, and then if you find that you don't want to increase his salary too much then you can train JS and JR.

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126140.223 in reply to 126140.222
Date: 3/12/2010 2:10:55 PM
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1st JR is important for big men on certain tactics. Not every tactic needs JR but every tactic can use some JS. Maybe is the best way to expose the luck of OD of the opposite C= fouls for him. 2nd JS training trains IS and vice versa. So nothing is going wasted. My player (6470627) has 10 on JS 1 on JR 13 on IS. Since i remember him (he is on my since day one) he shoots really nice and for years was my most efficient scorer. (Now younger players surpassed him, but nether less precious backup)

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126140.224 in reply to 126140.223
Date: 3/12/2010 2:18:27 PM
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My question is how do you know if the 13 IS or the 10 JS is responsible for his scoring? Just logically, it seems that having an 7 JS with JR 1 isn't really any different to 10 JS with JR 1. Because regardless of how good a shooter you are, the JR is acting as a cap for the distance you can shoot from. Or is that not how the GE works?
I just thought that with JR 1, the JS will only really be good within that range, and so he will be a good shooter close to the basket, but isn't that what IS is anyway?

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126140.225 in reply to 126140.224
Date: 3/12/2010 2:32:04 PM
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As i said i am training big men. Not all of my big men have that good JS. IS is deferent than JS for sure. I am not asking from my player to operate as a guard. I am asking from him to be able to shoot some JS, especially useful when you run you play fast paced tactics

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126140.226 in reply to 126140.225
Date: 3/12/2010 2:35:07 PM
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Whats the difference between JS and IS? Just where they are taken from?

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126140.227 in reply to 126140.226
Date: 3/12/2010 2:40:45 PM
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Yep. This is how i understand it. IS is how you finish near to basket, JS is exactly that, even with 1 JR, still you are expanding your scoring area. See for example David Lee this season that he got JS, and how much better looks than last year.

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126140.228 in reply to 126140.227
Date: 3/12/2010 3:01:39 PM
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hmm....So 13 IS and 1 JS is pretty similar to 10 IS with 5 JS?

And 10 JS and 1 JR is similar to 8 JS and 3 JR?

Is that what you mean?

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126140.229 in reply to 126140.228
Date: 3/12/2010 4:00:01 PM
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No. 13 IS is 13 IS. Whats the deference here is that you make your big man more versatile. Therefore the defender needs more than just ID to stop him. He needs OD too. If he doesnt have it at all then most probably will be on a foul trouble.

JR is good to have but not essential if we are talking about big men. Thats my experience after 526 days on the game.

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126140.230 in reply to 126140.229
Date: 3/12/2010 4:05:56 PM
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Sorry but I'm still a bit confused. Consider half a basketball court. Which part does the IS affect shots from? Which part does the JS affect shots from? If a player has a JR of 1, and a player is shooting from outside this "range", then does it matter what his JS is? Does the section where JS occurs overlap with the section where IS occurs?

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126140.231 in reply to 126140.230
Date: 3/12/2010 4:19:15 PM
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Lets say that IS is everything 3-4 feet and in. JS lets say that are the shots from 4 feet and out. I can tell you exactly the numbers what i have in my mind is something like that. (20100511). Thats my last PO game. My PG/SG have 10/12 JR. My SF/PF have 8/4 on JR. As you can see those 2 made the only 3pt shots of my team.

According some very experienced managers after a certain level JR is waste of salary. (i tend to agree of course).

An interesting read about JS/JR even if they dont talk about big men JR. (133577.24)

Last edited by JohnnyB at 3/12/2010 4:28:10 PM

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