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152075.221 in reply to 152075.216
Date: 7/28/2010 1:01:31 PM
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ah nevermind,this is ugly

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Date: 7/28/2010 1:05:31 PM
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See how much you make in the arena...

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152075.223 in reply to 152075.221
Date: 7/28/2010 1:05:42 PM
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Also imho we are ot but maybe not. If in 20.000 users "actives" half of them don't have money probably the TL will suffer a little bit this aspect, maybe the reason is that some users quitted the game dunno about it but all the posts in this thread are in some way related to the economy (so imho the discussion changed the focus but is not stopped)

Edit: answered to your previous post about the Italians that stopped the discussion...

Last edited by ned at 7/28/2010 1:07:17 PM

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152075.224 in reply to 152075.222
Date: 7/28/2010 1:30:24 PM
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27/07/2010 Campionato contro trippla $ 159 835


It's nearly the same that you,but I have to pay 266k salary,while you are paying much less than me


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152075.225 in reply to 152075.224
Date: 7/28/2010 1:37:09 PM
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27-07-2010 Liga contra Deixasiroubatesduas $ 183 895


And I raised the prices so I'm sure the number will go up soon. 30k makes the difference. You should gain way more than me because I pay less. Simple

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Date: 7/28/2010 1:39:09 PM
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So basically what should happen is:
There is a country with VI divisions and a country with II divisions, the first division of the latter should get the amount of money equal to what the fifth or fourth division of the first country gets.

Not in this measure,that surely would be too drastic...but the system should be work,with the basilar idea of the TV contract and merchandising...the problem is that the main source of incomes surely come from the palace,it should be change the cap on arena attendence,looking at the competitivity(NOT ONLY AT THE SALARIES!) of the country and of the various leagues of the same country


I personally don't care about other international leagues,or about the reduction of the player with high potential,I care about whai I need to manage my team,that's why I want some change in economy

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152075.227 in reply to 152075.225
Date: 7/28/2010 1:42:46 PM
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27-07-2010 Liga contra Deixasiroubatesduas $ 183 895


And I raised the prices so I'm sure the number will go up soon. 30k makes the difference. You should gain way more than me because I pay less. Simple

How much do you think to earn more?180 is around the max you can earn in a III division,and to have 30k more than me you spend much more than me on palace bulidng luxury place,30k doesn't make great difference...
The real differecne between our economic situation is about the salaries of the players,and the difference is much greater than 30k...

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152075.228 in reply to 152075.223
Date: 7/28/2010 1:47:31 PM
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My thoughts and suggestions about:


1) World Superstars

I like idea of reducing high-potential players. This is also realistic:
The number of players who are members of an NBA team are more than 400.
Every team has 3-4 ''benchwarmers'' and ''announcers'', 5-6 ''role players'' and ''Sixth'' ones, and 5 ''starters''
Only 24 of the ''Starters'' make the ''Allstar'' team.
Of the 24 ''Allstars'' only the 15 are ''Superstars''.
From those 15 only 7-8 take awards at the end of the season (those are the ''MVPs'').
And from these 8 players only 4 or 5 will make the ''Hall of Fame''. However, we can't remember all the ''Hall-Of-Famers''. But we will remember this ''All-Times-Great'' one!

So, from 500 NBA players there are:

60 announcers
60 benchwarmers
90 Role Players
90 Sixth Players
150 Starters
24 Allstars
15 Superstars
8 MVPs
5 Hall of Famers
2 All Time Greats

So, from 50.000 BB players there should be:
6.000 announcers
6.000 benchwarmers
9.000 Role Players
9.000 Sixth Players
15.000 Starters
2.400 Allstars
1.500 Superstars
800 MVPs
500 Hall of Famers
200 All Time Greats


2) Gap between the Divisions
I think that the bonus given to a team that promotes should be high so that the team can be competitive in the new league by acquiring 2-3 players:

Countries with V or more Divisions for more than 3 seasons
Promoting to Div I ---> $5 000 000
Promoting to Div II ---> $2 500 000
Promoting to Div III ---> $1 500 000
Promoting to Div IV ---> $750 000
Promoting to Div V ---> $300 000
Promoting to any lower Div ---> $150 000

Countries with V or more divisions
Promoting to Div I ---> $3 000 000
Promoting to Div II ---> $1 500 000
Promoting to Div III ---> $1 000 000
Promoting to Div IV ---> $300 000
Promoting to Div V ---> $150 000
Promoting to any lower Div ---> $50 000

Countries with IV divisions for more than 3 seasons
Promoting to Div I ---> $2 000 000
Promoting to Div II ---> $1 000 000
Promoting to Div III ---> $500 000

Countries with IV divisions
Promoting to Div I ---> $1 000 000
Promoting to Div II ---> $500 000
Promoting to Div III ---> $200 000

Countries with III or less divisions
Promoting to Div I ---> $800 000
Promoting to Div II ---> $500 000

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152075.229 in reply to 152075.205
Date: 7/28/2010 1:58:32 PM
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Ok so the guy is over $600k wage but his only dubious stat is passing. Why bother having attributes that can be built to 20+ if they aren't sustainable? This guy is not a mono-skilled beast, he is simply a BEAST and something has to be done to encourage and make better use of players like this. It will be interesting to watch his career over the coming seasons. He should win games wherever he plays but he will seriously distort the true competition at the same time.
Ofcourse you would love to have 5 beasts in your team. This game is about different tactics. Do you want that 600k beast player and fill the rest of your roster with scrubs, or you want 5 100k salary players. The fact that some players can be trained that far does not mean you have to be able to sustain 5 of those in your team.
I see you so worried about everyone quitting all of the sudden.
Right now we have a system in place whereby you can go buy yourself instant success and this can/will trump other tactics. I think the game is in serious danger of watching teams going for a win and then quit or try win, fail but still quit.
How can you buy yourself to success if the teams you are competing with are in an exactly the same position. Instead of worrieing how many will fail and quit, perhaps you should worry about how you could get more japanese players to join. There can be only one winner per league and one per country. So taking that into consideration, we should see ~94% of playerbase quitting every season (if we count league winners as a successful team), if we look only at Idiv wins we should see 99,98% of userbase quitting because they can't win. So please don't be so dramatic about users coming in and going out.
About all this "we need to make the same money as every other div(insert any level here) in 10 user country". The game is about building the best team, with the best income and lowest salarys you can manage to win. Even if you operate at negative balance, you need to promote or you will be forced to sell your players at some point.
I don't still understand what do you guys want to have done, raise income in all big countrys -> making Italian DivI earn twise the money as Japan divI. So there would be no hope of Japanese team to ever actually compete in BBB. Making this change only because some maltan team can overbid a few players from the big country users. I have been also outbid by Italian div4-5 teams. Should we lower their income now?
It seems a bit funny to me that we talk about the global market because handful of teams play in the international competition. If you want to get there, you have to be the best in your country! anyway.

From: Shawnas

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152075.230 in reply to 152075.218
Date: 7/28/2010 2:31:42 PM
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I will reapeat. what is the difference when:

a) salaries 800k and income 800k. 3 prolific skills center costs 400k
b) salaries 200k and income 200k. 3 prolific skills center costs 100k

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Date: 7/28/2010 2:38:33 PM
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I totaly disagry in that. What do you mean competetivity? if theres a league where everyone gets around 0, then the league where everyone earns 50k is less competetive or more? I think it is great that italian leagues are very competetive is great exacly for you guys - you do have more fun. what is fun to play in Canada, where Torroo dominates? I actually do not is how money injection can change anything. slowing training maybe. I think removing FA should fix economy, when for 3 season training you could afford to keep a solid player at least a season

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