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248324.222 in reply to 248324.220
Date: 9/28/2013 1:20:17 PM
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True, if oponent flow is good there is no way you can stop it with
3-2 zone. But since league 1 teams use to have like 10 passing on their sg/sf and like 13 on pgs thats the reason 3-2 zone works. but if the flow is good only chance is 2-3 zone... I used to have beast offensive flow few seasons ago runing LI like 85 percent of shots were assited ones. and when i was facing 2-3 zone shot percentages were down and asists rate was down to like the half its agains mtm.

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Date: 9/28/2013 2:13:38 PM
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True, if oponent flow is good there is no way you can stop it with
3-2 zone. But since league 1 teams use to have like 10 passing on their sg/sf and like 13 on pgs thats the reason 3-2 zone works. but if the flow is good only chance is 2-3 zone...

the only problem is that 2-3 does not work :D


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248324.224 in reply to 248324.223
Date: 9/28/2013 6:53:39 PM
Cruesli
DBA Pro A
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See my post a few posts back which was meant to adress exactly these kind of statements ("3-2 is better than 2-3 against LI", "2-3 doensn't work").

Summary: It depends on your players and the opponents players.


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248324.225 in reply to 248324.224
Date: 9/28/2013 6:57:57 PM
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And still you cant answer the question what players are needed for 2-3. You just got a different opinion with no facts to back it.

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From: Big Dogs

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Date: 9/28/2013 9:54:54 PM
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Here is what I think. All 10 players (assuming one plays 5 starters and 5 backups) need suffocating or at least high OD. Along with that, forwards and centers need above-average ID and high SB to defend drives and inside shots.

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248324.228 in reply to 248324.225
Date: 9/29/2013 5:11:38 AM
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A lot of guys in this thread seem to ignore the facts presented by Nachtmahr. Just go find them, read them and think about them. I'm sure you'll be able to draw the right conclusions then.

From: Tesse

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248324.229 in reply to 248324.225
Date: 9/29/2013 6:59:07 AM
Cruesli
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I'm not making idiot statements like the ones I just mentioned though. And some of the things I mention are facts, namely "how well a line-up works depends on your players and your opponents player". Or are you doubting that? Do you think a good LI or Run and Gun require exactly the same players?

And you never asked me what players were needed for 2-3 so why do you assume I can't answer? I've played 2-3 zones pretty effectively in the past. They are not a clearcut defense that you just always use when someone wants to attack inside. You need opponents with bad outside shooting and you yourself need to have an SF that can really defend down low there as well (high ID, maybe SB as well but mine is average there) and bigs that have high SB.

But I wrote exactly this in post #220.....so this mostly shows that you don't even bother to read the posts you bitch about.

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248324.230 in reply to 248324.228
Date: 9/29/2013 7:02:53 AM
Cruesli
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His numbers were some great work. A bit sad that even in that thread only a few noticed them.

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248324.232 in reply to 248324.229
Date: 9/30/2013 9:34:51 AM
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And you never asked me what players were needed for 2-3 so why do you assume I can't answer? I've played 2-3 zones pretty effectively in the past. They are not a clearcut defense that you just always use when someone wants to attack inside. You need opponents with bad outside shooting and you yourself need to have an SF that can really defend down low there as well (high ID, maybe SB as well but mine is average there) and bigs that have high SB.

So, to play 2-3 succesfully, you need certain conditions with which you could win with every other kind of defense. Good to know it


Last edited by Steve Karenn at 9/30/2013 9:37:01 AM

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