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254079.225 in reply to 254079.223
Date: 1/13/2014 9:00:38 AM
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I agree with you, a lot of teams from my league are inactive, but they go bot, and then new team comes, and that is a new possibility for an active manager who will be active on forum, chat, and with whom I can talk via messages. When a foreigner joins my league he will simply take 1 place and there will be less opportunity for an active manager to arrive... I hope you understood what I am trying to say, I am not so good english speaker, and I sometimes mess up easy sentence(like in this post:D)

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254079.226 in reply to 254079.213
Date: 1/13/2014 9:03:57 AM
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1. draft pick ordering enables second teams to tank and hog all the best trainees
- give draft priority to local teams


Sorry Marin
Talk about taking away some of the incentive of owning a 2nd team.
So instead local teams can tank and get those choices
teams are teams, put them in with others and play with same rules or don't bother

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254079.227 in reply to 254079.199
Date: 1/13/2014 9:07:40 AM
Legendy Wrocław
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And @Prezes, yes, this is also to generate more money for BB, can anyone blame them? More than half of the complaints we hear have to do with stuff the admins don't have the manpower for to solve. When they generate more money, it can lead to more manpower and thus improvements.


believe me. I have no pain in ass if someone will have more money. I can afford buy a supporte rpackage (I dont have it because I dont need the functions contained there)
all I want to say is at a time when this change will come, a certain group of people will be privileged. Privileged for money in a free website game. IMO that way is wrong. thats All.

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254079.230 in reply to 254079.193
Date: 1/13/2014 9:29:42 AM
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I totally support this. One very important flaw has been brought up by Yellow Cake: secondary teams stealing top draft picks.

I suggest secondary teams get merchandise boost for NT/U21 players from the country secondary team is in. Basically I'd play in USA, train USA NT player and if he ever plays for USA NT, I get same merchandise boost as I get for my primary team when one of my NT players plays for Slovenia.

This would not only prevent the pick stealing to an extent, but secondary team would be much more welcomed in a country if it means he will contribute to their U21 or NT cause.


I would think this would already have to be in place. (This topic is going so quickly that I haven't caught up so I apologize if it's already been brought up). The fact that you're a manager from Slovenia would only apply to your second team in that you can't obtain players of Slovenian nationality by any means on your second team; as far as the second team goes, it's in the USA leagues (in this example) so the merchandise/tournament expectations/secret bonus we get against foreign clubs will all apply as it would for any other USA team.

Did I say that last part out loud? Oops.

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254079.231 in reply to 254079.201
Date: 1/13/2014 9:32:13 AM
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@ Steve Karenn, and you're not a Supporter right? I rest my case...

So what? This doesn't change anything about cheating issue. And yes, cheating yet exist, and secondary team will only amplify this pheonomenon, so instead of compaining with non-supporters for not agreeing with you and BB for such an awful idea, you can help with some solutions for that issue to make then eventually acceptable to introduce a secondary team


Or eliminate the NT entirely. There's a whole lot of handwringing about "sabotage" this, "farm team" that, over soemthing that's relatively inconsequential to the core game experience. Make the game itself better for the people who want to play it, and the people who are going to cheat for the sideshow of NT games can now find something better to do with their time.

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254079.232 in reply to 254079.213
Date: 1/13/2014 9:34:17 AM
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Firstly, I see that you guys are working hard and care about the users and the game. Regardless of the outcome of this proposal (and future proposals), your hard work and dedication is appreciated.

To the issue at hand, there are going to be so many restrictions, and different rules, that it will be a bit odd to play a game that now has different rules and restrictions for different teams. With one team per user, every team is playing by the same rules. Adding the secondary team would then add (hundreds? Thousands?) of new teams that are playing by a different set of rules regarding where they are allowed to draft, who they are allowed to bid on in the transfer markets, how far they can climb the BB ranks etc ... It will add a weird dynamic to what is now a simple system where everyone plays by the same rules. If/when secondary teams become some of the best teams in the game, playing in the top division will lose some of its luster, because you know that you aren't necessarily playing against the best.

If you are going to allow secondary teams, I think they should be allowed in with as few restrictions as possible and play by the honor system and users policing themselves. If some issues of cheating become such a problem, you can implement official restrictions as you go. Just my two cents.

Last edited by Big Chief Triangle at 1/13/2014 9:36:13 AM

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254079.234 in reply to 254079.232
Date: 1/13/2014 9:44:17 AM
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Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
If you are going to allow secondary teams, I think they should be allowed in with as few restrictions as possible and play by the honor system and users policing themselves. If some issues of cheating become such a problem, you can implement official restrictions as you go


Amen

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254079.235 in reply to 254079.229
Date: 1/13/2014 9:49:14 AM
Legendy Wrocław
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well
if I understood supporter package, there are a few nice extras. Additives, which never gave the real advantage over the other user. In other words, all users have equal chances.
At a time when this change will come, supporters will be able to acquire new knowledge on the game engine by building alternative team. and this is just what I mean by saying they would be privileged

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