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No, I've just begun my research on it a few hours ago, didn't really bother looking up the abnormalities at the start of the league. We can trace it down by simply looking up his transactions tho :P

I didn't mean to change the system to be salary based, because it would be even more unfair. I find the rating system good as is, except for a lack of restrictions. Also, I'm adressing this to, maybe, find an easy to implement solution to it.

It's a competetive game, so dodging all unfairness is not a possible task (64th and the 1st team won't have a complete 50/50, so it's automatically unfair, but at an acceptable rate), but when top 10 teams don't even have a chance at beating the number one team, well, it's not great. Especially, when the Tier3 mammoths can even compete with an ease when upped a tier (or two, even).

That's why I'd love to see something like a hard salary cap in the games - you can't use players, whos combined salaries exceed X amount. Well, a tier (or an elevated average of sorts) based salary ceiling.

Or if possible, some sort of a relegation/promotion game for the league abnormalities. But I haven't had the time to figure out how that'd work (or if it'd work).

As you've mentioned, since we do get compensation for the games, it's not something I'd be very angry about if it wasn't fixed, however it's something I'd be extremely happy about if it was :P

Oh yes, since I'm playing with 30-40k starters I really do know that , but we're comparing 1,3kk salaries to 500k salaries. There's no world where this is not a 10 out of 10 win for the wealthy guy :P.


And yes, I can only second the trust to BB's (especially with addition of Justin and Dr-J), although I still find a need to outline problems, if i see any :P

Last edited by Kritulys at 8/12/2021 5:09:51 AM

I suspect that this will iron itself out in a couple seasons.

My guess is that the world ranking will become much more accurate. Before this, there was not that much inter-country play, other than scrimmages which people don't necessarily field their starters and private leagues, which can be used for experimentation.

So, how to value a 11-11 team in two different leagues? With BBM, there are a lot more inter-country games and so, after a season or two, the rankings will become more accurate.

If a team is way overmatched for its tier, it will lose a lot and its ranking will go down and then, the next season it will be in a lower tier. Same if its overmatched.

While your salary is way lower, apparently your team is well suited for its tier because its in the top what, 1% of teams in the tier? Even though you have no chance to win your tier, you will make the playoffs which only like 5% of the tier gets to do. Just because you dont have a chance to win the whole thing doesn't mean that the system is broken and needs to be fixed.

Managers from small countries still have a huge advantage in this competition.

If two teams are at similar level in this competition, you have to know that the manager from, for example, Spain is infinitely better manager than the manager from, let's say, England or Australia.

I thought a bit more about this. Now I understand that managers from small countries like this competition. They don't have real competition in their home leagues. All semi-inactive managers and bots there. So they enjoy some real competition, and they still have that big advantage that allows them to think that they are good managers when compared to div.3 teams from Spain or Italy.

But let's be honest. This competition is just a useless patch to avoid doing what in reality should be done: [merge all the leagues together.

In the past, people could dream of this game growing and growing and having a lot of big leagues. Not anymore. Today even the most competitive league would benefit from being bigger and having a true div.4 and a more competitive div.3.

My guess is that the world ranking will become much more accurate

Does BBM even influence world rankings? My rating has reacted to me losing league games and not changed much after won BBM games. So I don't find this statement accurate.

While your salary is way lower, apparently your team is well suited for its tier because its in the top what, 1% of teams in the tier? Even though you have no chance to win your tier, you will make the playoffs which only like 5% of the tier gets to do. Just because you don't have a chance to win the whole thing doesn't mean that the system is broken and needs to be fixed.

That's why I argue not for myself, but for most of yet to be beaten teams. The number 4 team has close to zero odds of winning, despite it being THE number 4 team. And lets not forget that most of the 1 percent that you're mentioning (same as with 5%) have the same odds. I don't find this very appealing from a competitive point of view.

If you find this OK, well, I guess you never played real sports. Or anything competitive at that note.

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But if the BBM was made just for fun, and not to boost the competitive side of things, sure I'll take it anyway:D.

That's why I argue not for myself, but for most of yet to be beaten teams. The number 4 team has close to zero odds of winning, despite it being THE number 4 team. And lets not forget that most of the 1 percent that you're mentioning (same as with 5%) have the same odds. I don't find this very appealing from a competitive point of view.

If you find this OK, well, I guess you never played real sports. Or anything competitive at that note.

Probably you haven't have yet played a sport/egames in an early development sir... what you are saying is obviously correct... we just have to be patient for now coz it's just the BBM's first season... the system will sort things out and would get better as seasons pass by...

But all in all to what you said I agree... and kinda hoping from the first place that BB could have also include BBM to calculate WR... IMO as BBM Tier/placements updates... BB can also convert them to Ranking too...


Last edited by Bro_Khen at 8/13/2021 12:58:56 AM

Probably you haven't have yet played a sport/egames in an early development sir... what you are saying is obviously correct... we just have to be patient for now coz it's just the BBM's first season... the system will sort things out and would get better as seasons passby...

Don't get me wrong. I'm in no position to demand anything. I'm just pointing out flaws, which I'd be extremely happy about being gone :) . However, with things staying as is I'm still very happy about BBM :)

yeah... thanks for a kind reply... I just finished editing my first post... it was kind of unfair that I only had replied in one point while I agree with the majority of what you have said...

To stop teams from adding salary to just win the BBM, make the first game as the transfer deadline for BBM. You can still buy players but just like buying a player after the playoff deadline, he can be used in league games and cup games but not allowed in BBM games. I plan on winning my league this season, I will get a promotion bonus and I will have to add salary to make the salary floor in the top division.My WR will be that of a Div.II team but I will be really a Div. I team playing in Tier 2 or 3. But this is the first season, I'm sure BB will iron out these wrinkles.

merge all the leagues together.

i rarely agree with what you say but this one gets my thumbs up

it's piece of cake to make lots of $$$ playing in a small country while it's extremely hard to get to the summit at big countries. at the same time, players are bought and sold regardless of their nationality. so, I couldn't agree more: leagues should be merged internationally. i hope BBM would eventually lead to that, hopefully soon.

Last edited by Bernspin at 8/13/2021 10:18:30 AM