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From: malice

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186440.23 in reply to 186440.21
Date: 6/5/2011 5:35:43 AM
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Yes it is ok to compare them because they both are still playing...lebron was putting up better stats in his second year than bryant LOL.Also don't you dare to bring up rings or any stuff like that because lakers have freaking 90m roster and ofcourse they just got swept LOL.
http://hoopsapedia.webs.com/kobebryantvslebron.htm
Read this...

Talk about a response fraught with contradictions!
Firstly, Kobe and LeBron are in very different stages of their careers. If you want to compare them, fine - but at least do so with balance. Because at the end of the day - all that matters is the rings. Everything else is window-dressing.

Secondly, let's have a look at your somewhat contradictory post.
* Don't bring up rings, but bring up stats... so the most important statistic of them all - winning - is irrelevant?
* Situations only matter when you say they do? You deride Kobe for playing with a good roster, but praise LeBron for statistical accumulation. You do realise why LeBron accumulated those stats, right? And why LA got rings? Better roster. You can't discount one and keep the other.
* Individual vs team... Again, you choose to highlight LeBron's individual awards, but downplay Kobe's team-based ones. Completely unfair.
* Lies, damn lies... and statistics. You can compile all the stats you like, but LeBron had 2 teams that won over 60 regulation season games in a season... and fell flat in the playoffs.

Kobe has how many rings now? And when the sun sets, that's all that matters. LeBron will no doubt get a championship, maybe even multiple ones. But it's taken a run to Dwyane Wade's team with Chris Bosh to get 'em. And that, will pretty much damn him in the GOAT conversation forever more.

Last edited by malice at 6/5/2011 5:36:19 AM

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From: pmfg10

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Date: 6/5/2011 6:56:14 AM
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Also you can talk about the never ending chokes of queen james.

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Date: 6/5/2011 4:54:31 PM
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I'm not a lebron fan. I do think he is a good player, and i do agree that he has a lot more to show.


However, in order to begin this comparison, lebron should have stayed in cleveland, and go against any other team with everything he's got and also help his teammates evolve. lebron is less worried about helping a team, then he is to win a championship, so that is very bad for him in this comparison. Moreover, MJ came through when it mattered most, in crucial NBA History moments. No one can top that.

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Date: 6/10/2011 5:44:18 AM
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This question reminds me of that commerical for Bad Teachers where the kid argues that Lebron is a better passer and rebounder than MJ and the adult says MJ has more rings. At the end of the day though, I think that's the only argument he needs though. While it is true that MJ had a better supporting cast, Lebron only got to the finals once with Cleveland, a favorite the past two seasons (if I am correct). More so, Lebron has quit too many times before. It's obvious to me Lebron won't quit on this Heat team, but that seems more to salvage what's left of his reputation (how bad would he look if he didn't win rings with this team) than to build on his reputation like in Cleveland.


So the greatest of all time is Russel, cause he has the most rings. Ok i could understand this call, because he is for me one of three person you could put in the mix for it.

The next conclusion you draw, is that Derek Fisher(6), Kerr(6), Sanders(8) and Heinsohn(8) is much better then Wilt Chamberlain(2).

I think why MJ is better then LeBron, is that he put his stamp of a generation of basetball, and brings it to new heights in attention. While LeBron have problems to put a stamp on his team, i think you still could say that Miami is Wades team, but could you say that the Bulls was Pippens team?

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Date: 6/10/2011 7:42:14 AM
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Game 5 last night, Lebrick James shoots a wide open 3 pointer brick with 1:52 left and Heat down by 2.

From: Mr Angell

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186440.29 in reply to 186440.28
Date: 6/10/2011 10:42:21 AM
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Lebron is a Forward, and Bird would actually be a better comparison to him IMO.


100% agree with that!


As for him being too young to start comparing him, dont forget hes 27 this year, and just finishing his 8th season, he's had plenty of time to stamp his mark, he just doesn't have it in him! And running off to Wade only confirms that.

In comparison (sorry but the title does say Jordan VS Lebron lol) Jordans 8th season he won his 7th scoring title, 8th All star appearance, his 3rd regular season AND finals MVP awards. Oh, and his 3rd ring of course..

To conclude.... I dont think Lebron will ever have a pic anything like this... ;)

(http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/top-ten-chicago-sports/as...)

I can accept failure, everyone fails at something. But I cant accept not trying. - MJ
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Date: 6/10/2011 1:32:07 PM
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Really lost respect for Pippen for giving this debate any fuel, it's a joke. Speaking of, lebron has a lot more in common with Pippen then Jordan. Both play 2nd fiddle to "the man" on their teams, and neither could win a championship trying to be "the man" on their own teams.

Heck, lebron is one loss from even being able to say for sure that he could win a championship while playing 2nd fiddle.

Last edited by brian at 6/10/2011 1:34:28 PM

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From: CrazyEye

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Date: 6/10/2011 4:05:54 PM
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i think the Dirk vs Bird comparision makes more sense then the Lebron Bird comparision, even when they play different Positions but Bird they have a lot in common what comes beyond the colour of the skin both have nearly unguardable Jumpshot, don't have a superior athletic, are teamplayer without Monsteregos in Interviews and for the rest i had to watch more Bird games but that what have sticked into my mind was comparable to Nowitzki.

Now compare Bird to Lebron, what do they have even in common?

Maybe a better comparision to Lebron is Magic Johnson, considering their type of play. Because he is like Lebron a very versatil players, even when it isn't a exact matchup.

From: CrazyEye

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Date: 6/11/2011 3:59:18 AM
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you mean, LeBron image in the public is just as bad because of white interviewers? Are they responsible, that he make jokes about ill opponents? That he already celebrate multiple championship after the decision(ok maybe thats more Miami stuff), but you don't hear stuff that often from him that his teammates are important parts for his succes etc.

Durant(he is also black and hyped, but probadly in a region withonly black reporters) is really humble, and represent sportmanship in my eyes.

And bird wasn't the dude, who pla with his athletic, and he wasn't constantly the fastest, strongest dude with the biggest hoops on the court - i believe he rarely crack it up in one discipline. Bird was a fighter, but also more a finesse guy in the offense. Lebron is for me more like a Rolling tank, with mediocore shot, good passing.

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