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235492.23 in reply to 235492.22
Date: 2/5/2013 12:01:06 PM
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Canada Purple Haze BC
Players can only reach certain skill levels according to their potential
skill pops slow down significantly as the players age
an OD that takes 2 weeks at 18 will take double or more at 25
So if you start training too late players will not get as good as they could have been

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235492.24 in reply to 235492.23
Date: 2/5/2013 12:09:59 PM
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It depends on skill levels as to whether or not its worth it.

A trainee that youve invested 5 seasons into and is the future of your team may be worth training at 23-25 to maximize what you get out of him.

but a 24 yr old that hasnt been trained is not worth training because you will get little to nothing out of him.

The speed goes down, but there are still benefits in training all the way to 25-ish with the right players.

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235492.25 in reply to 235492.21
Date: 2/5/2013 1:37:03 PM
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It depends on the price you're willing to pay. If you're just starting out and don't want to spend too much right away, you can buy a 18 year old with star/allstar potential and main skills between 5-7. You should be able to buy these for a couple 1000 bucks. It's not that bad if they have 1 skill that is below mediocre, but just check what is available at what price, determine the budget you want to spend and try to find the player(s) that approach what you aim for best.

For older players that you still want to train it gets a bit harder to say. I don't have much experience in buying and training older players, but as a very general guide line I think you can count the total skill points of a player (without stamina and free throw) and take 50 as a base for 18 year olds, and 10 extra for every year they're older than 18. There would still be a lot of exceptions to this, but that would be too long to write down for now.

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235492.27 in reply to 235492.25
Date: 2/5/2013 3:00:57 PM
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And the best time to buy is at the end of the season after the draft?

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235492.28 in reply to 235492.26
Date: 2/5/2013 3:05:24 PM
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A much better source for information regarding training speeds, I would suggest signing up for the crowdsourced training analysis. There you will find information regarding the effect that age, height, and trainers have on training speeds.

Go here for more information (203921.1)

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235492.30 in reply to 235492.27
Date: 2/5/2013 4:20:27 PM
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Yes, like Manon said, there's many trainees for sale right after the draft, and when supply is high, prices are lower. Right at the start demand will also be high, so the lowest prices you will get a week or maybe 2 after the draft, but you should be looking right away if you can find a nice trainee which isn't in a bidding war.

If you want to spend more money on a good trainee, remember to save some money at the end of the season.

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235492.31 in reply to 235492.14
Date: 2/5/2013 6:19:24 PM
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I find star level players and below to be a waste of time when looking at them from a training perspective. If someone else has a 27 year old that is most of the way or all of the way to their cap, then it's a different story. But a player with mistakes made at an 8 potential can still become a long term project for a learning player.


Well-trained star potential players can be very useful for both the short term for a new team and for quite some time. You're not going to ride them into the NBBA but the odds of training a player to NBBA standards, being able to afford him and getting to the NBBA for a new team is exceptionally low to begin with, while the incidence of badly trained, salary inefficient guys with huge salaries torpedoing clubs is high and the number of people who train high potential guys incompletely for a few seasons and then repeat with a new high potential guy is also high.

Spot on (oh! and edit: ball for you!). Guy's not going to keep his initial trainees. They are just there to help him get going. Eventually, he'll sell them at a nice-ish price, and move to something better. Far more affordable to look for guys like that now, and get better later.
It's a very rare team with their initial trainees STILL on a roster 5-7 seasons later.

Last edited by malice at 2/5/2013 6:22:38 PM

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235492.32 in reply to 235492.18
Date: 2/5/2013 6:22:09 PM
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Dunno who mentioned the arena, but I disagree with bleachers and lower tier build. I've built some luxes and courtsides first. The improvements were done is about a week, and were used in the next matches. I'll build bleachers in the offseason, because it lasts longer.

I'm in the league II though, so not sure if you can do the same in lower leagues. Also not sure how much you should invest, I've invested 800k from my first 3 economical updates, still filling out the arena. That's with prices increased to 60%(of the max price). I guess in the lower league you can lessen the prices to fill out the arena?

Completely wrong for a div. IV/V team. Additionally, in the long run your bleachers/lower tiers will most likely be your bread-'n-butter for attendance.

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