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Is OD too cheap for its' effect?

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249848.23 in reply to 249848.22
Date: 2/12/2014 4:57:59 PM
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And your player will probably go 1-10 from the field and turn the ball over four times, unless he has high passing, in which case he'll have a really high salary.

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Date: 2/12/2014 6:02:22 PM
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Usage rate doesn't normalize for skill in BB unless a player has high passing and experience. Even with high EXP, a high OD player who can't shoot or pass will be a turnover machine. Your team won't play 4-on-5 and if they do your team will suffer for it. Even if he has high HND/DRV, his salary will balloon as a PG and he'll just miss a ton of layups. You still get what you pay for.

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Date: 2/13/2014 8:44:57 AM
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Every time I saw opponent with dominant perimeter scoring, I knew I had this.

I was thinking on how to elaborate my point of view as an answer to your previous post, but then I realized you answered yourself. I'm talking about highest levels of play, not some D.II perimeter-oriented team. I would like to see what is your OD 22 player able to do against IS 14 guards...

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Date: 2/13/2014 2:18:01 PM
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I created this thread to counter Wolph's argument about OD being too cheap. He is saying OD-only players like yours should have higher salary, while I tried to prove OD only players are not good eonugh to warrant higher salary.

Current enviroment at highest level features guards with low PA (11-14) and high HA, DR and IS (20, 20, 14). JS is around 17-18. JR is low. This is a perfect Look inside guard that is very efficient for his salary. OD 22 guy may slow him down, but there are four other positions from where players can efficiently score.

I noticed you design a scenario where offensive players are better, but not defensive players.

I didn't designt this enviroment, managers in B3 and NT competition did. Because OD and ID alone can't stop IS, managers have been trying to find how to score more and not how to defend better. So for this enviroment players like OD 22 with nothing else are detrimental to the team.

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Date: 2/14/2014 7:05:20 AM
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I do think it is too cheap still, or at least it was, in comparison to jump shot and jump range. They fixed formula a lil bit, there really was no reason why range was so more expensive than OD.

No one here claims one skill makes player BBB caliber by default, thats stupid. Of course a guy with 22 OD and nothing else would be detrimental. But so the guy with 22 JS and nothing else would be detrimental... OD is the only skill you are judging in a vacuum, its very unfair and makes no sense. You literally can make the same case for every skill, and I bet at the end, OD only player would be far from the worst. If I forced to choose between the 2, I rather have a guy with 7 JS and 22 OD, than a guy with 22 JR and 7 OD if you ask me.



I would have none of those guys, seeing that they have discrepancies in skill. I don't really understand the argument. If you consider OD to be so good, why do you complain of it being to cheap? makes no sense to me. Go ahead and make your 25+ OD team and that's that, you can go and win the B3 next:)

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