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Seems like a nice feature, but I don't really enjoy the fact that it was just thrown like this on the table without any previous info.

Overextension Tax Calculation
Total Revenue: $ 464 791
Total Expenses: $ -475 757
Training Exemption: $ 89 984
Overextension: $ 0
Overextension Tax Rate: 50%
Overextension Tax Total: $ 0

But it's kind of bulls**t, because normally i train a few guys and sell them for profit then get some overpaid jocks to help me promote or whatever. It seems I won't be able to do that anymore, which I think is really dumb.

one question for everyone : how is the exemption calculated when the salary formula changes from one season to another ?

and, on a more analytical note, i fear this tax will be highly deflationary on the transfer market. It is somehow a tax on salaries ,thus it lowers the value of a player, which in the end should impact transfer prices. And i guess this could be non negligeable. In my league for instance the teams that promoted in the past seasons were systematically overspending. this tax makes this strategy much more difficult, which means lots of team wont want to buy that many players anymore.

what do u think ?

Last edited by jeff44 at 12/28/2013 5:08:16 AM

Ok so can someone tell me if im screwed then? See below and any suggestions would be great,

Overextension Tax Calculation
Total Revenue: $ 158 871
Total Expenses: $ -443 629
Training Exemption: $ 0
Overextension: $ -284 758
Overextension Tax Rate: 50%
Overextension Tax Total: $ -142 379

Do i fire my high salary players before Monday financial update?

will i get hit with the extension tax on monday update (2 days time) ?

Last edited by Maddy at 12/28/2013 5:57:33 AM

But it's kind of bulls**t, because normally i train a few guys and sell them for profit then get some overpaid jocks to help me promote or whatever. It seems I won't be able to do that anymore, which I think is really dumb.

actually is really great and smart. makes basketball managers less prone to waste entire seasons to profit-or-whatever managers. it will reward basketball managers that do this: 1, build a foundation of their team through draft [i. e., San Antonio or Oklahoma City team models] with 2-3 good players they trained themselves; 2, then complement this foundation with a couple of free agents and a decent bench.

this is intelligent stuff, not dumb stuff. dumb stuff is the brooklyn nets model stuff. you can still do a brooklyn impersonation, but I find quite GREAT that BB penalizes being dumb in favor of doing some intelligent planning.

Training exemption $0......OUCH!!
Should have trained some players....my exemption is 233K

my exemption is 233K

smooth! mine is at 103k at the moment. great management of yours!

it is dumb, because i waste something like a full year of training(i.e. 3-4 seasons) rookies and guys for U21 for example. And right now, If I want to train I actually have to keep my trainees until they are old in order to not pay that tax(so I will not be able to train youngsters anymore). And even when they are old I will not be able to sell them because no one will buy high salary players anymore. I never said I was tanking but i think this takes away a lot of stuff from the game.


Plus, right now there will be an even higher gap between leagues. There is absolutely no freaking way a second league team can stand a chance promoting without buying at least 2 high salary guys.

I respect your opinion, however I do not agree. I think it will hurt the user base even more. I'm sorry for using words like dumb, it's related to the concept itself not you, or anything. I'm not trying to get in an argument just for the fun of it. I really don't like this idea. If someone right now, has 2-3 NT players, and they are in the first league of any country, they will never climb down from there.

yeah, that seems ugly. But how come your expenses are so much higher than your revenues? You would be heading towards bankrupt, even without the overextesion tax.

that is correct, if a guy in DI has 2-3 NT players HE TRAINED he will be there forever. The Tax is not meant to make everybody king of the country now and then; its purpose is to tackle short-term-thinking teams. If a team has a short-term-strategy, like not building the arena, and like just buying some players for the playoffs or a big cup game, then those guys will suffer.

I don't say this Tax is perfect. But I do say that there are MANY DI players that buy high-salary players; hell, they even change their entire roster from season to season. Now, the manager that trained his guys, he'll have a hard time getting through, like everybody else, but I think the BB tries to make the competition fair, not perfect. I don't have a problem being in DII or DIII or whatever for a long time. I have a problem in staying here just because a guy decided to go ballooning his economy just for the fun of it. You could say that this guy will do it EVENTUALLY. Yes, true, but the Tax makes that guy run a lot harder: maybe he gets to promote, but he'll be in a hell of financial hole. So less players will be able to pull that strategy.

Again, this will not make "democratic" the mountain top. It's not like this will make everybody win from time to time. What this does is that winning gets done by smarter methods than before. That is my point. The tax is not perfect either. Since draft is way more valuable now, you could argue that trainers salaries should be adjusted, or draf point be adjusted to be cheaper, etc, etc But to say the Tax is dumb? Don't see the rationality about it, except that one got the buy-sell caroussel broken.

Hell Im going to have to sell my best player or 2 on a flooded market next week and will also probably have to put back a run for promotion to Div 1, an extra season, but I reckon the changes are great.

Obviously it strongly favours teams who have established players that they have trained and in the short term it will deflate the value of established players and dramatically increase the value of trainees and partly trained players

If you are someone who trains players it will make it easier to go up through the divisions assuming that they are properly trained.

I would like to see a change that would see players valued at what there salary was when they were brought or what there current salary is , Which ever is the lesser, for calculation purposes so that older players who have been on Managers rosters for a long time but were not necessarily trained by a manager, can be kept for sentimental reasons, and a manager not penalised for doing so when their skills drop off through age.

I expect many Managers who are disadvantaged to quit the game, but that is okay as the game will be dramatically improved by these changes and has been discussed in other threads , the game could quickly grow in numbers if Apps were developed

I believe that the change should have been touted part way through last season, so as to allow managers to adjust and so to prevent the transfer list from going into meltdown next week.

Perhaps giving Managers an extra week to adjust before the tax implementation or even making the tax at a lower rate (say 25%) for this season, before it rises to %50 next season.

That all said Im still in favour of the rule changes and believe that it will certainly make the game a lot more interesting and challenging in the long term.

Good Managers will eventually work things out, even some one of average ability like myself , who starts with a new team could go from Div IV to Div 1, even quicker with these changes



Last edited by Sid Vicious at 12/28/2013 7:27:07 AM