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And I'm pretty sure that a good part of not invested managers would hate to have to deal with an additional "pointless" game.

What you mean by that? That second scrimmage/friendly match is pointless? Does anybody force you to play second friendly if you don't want to??? If I don't force you to play or not play second friendly, why you force me to not play and want to make it impossible? Make it possible and everybody will decide for himself!!!

It is not about to have training or not. I can have training even with 1 match - I can put PG, SG, SF training at 3 position slots and I will still train. The idea is that I don't want to change my team conception just for 1 week and after that I change the conception back ..it''s pointless effort!!! I play default tactics ....I put my tactics from the match on 15.03 to the match on 22.03 .....and I put the tactic from the BBM match this week to the BBM match next week... I put the tactics from this week's friendly to the next week's frienly and I am happy with that. If you arrange your team for every single game, why you care so much how many friendlies are possible?? You will not loose or gain anything. Probably the managers at your level are capable to deal with 2 or 3 matches. But for new users that use mostly default tactics it will be a lot better.

In my opinion second scrimmage/friendly will make things easier for me and many more users and you will not loose so much. You can play 2 or 3 matches you will choose for yourself. You are jealous or something or what?! I even can't understand people that are agains 2 friendly games. Maybe because you are enough experienced and make tactics for every single match and you think you will loose the big advantage? You think things should happen your way?!

Ok, this week could stay as it is .....but maybe I will not train U21 or NT players anymore because I care about training just because of the prospects in my team. If I had only 24-28 players which are not very good I will just ignore this week and maybe I will not care at all 1, 2 or 3 matches we have in all-star week. I don't know how exactly this week makes you more "non-sleepy" but at least I would be more "sleepy" because I will care less and I will just watch the result in games and that's it. I don't want to loose my nerves to change team conceptions for nothing just for 1 week in the middle of the season and to argue with big ego managers that are against 2 (possible) friendlies which would make things easier for many managers just because they have no problem with the current situation and change tactics and conceptions very easy. Maybe teams like mine shouldn't exist, right? Because I am using my default tactics and I am not so great manager as you?!

I will say it again - I am now collecting money for arena and buildings and I am training my U21 possible players - I don't care so much about matches and tactics at that moment and I am happy with my default tactics. Or maybe I should make own tactics every single game to beat the bots in my division?! It's a waste of time, effort and nerves to change my team conception just for nothing. I can train my players with one or two friendlies ...but why should I be forced to change the conception of my team?! If I train 1:1 with 2 positions maybe even I myself will not use the second friendly because 2 matches are enough for my conception. But now I train OD with 3matches per 1position and I have to change everything just to match this week and then turn it back. I can't understand really what is the big problem and misunderstanding of some old teams and why they are agains second friendly so much?!

For me it is not interesting at this moment to make tactics every single game as it is for you. You want me to be like you to be "the right kind of person" or what?!?!

In the past I think I've agreed with Perpete that it's a little extra prize for progressing in the cup. Also that it's not much of a disadvantage as most teams at the same level will be in the same situation.

Now I'd classify myself as neutral, whether a scrimmage is introduced or not it barely changes the game so don't think it makes sense to have a strong opinion either way.

Because it will disturb the All-Star week. Right now the last game before the ASG is Saturday and Sunday, one day after, it comes to the votes for those players who will play there or will shoot for the 3 points shot contest. Being a scrimmage Tuesday will bring the possibility that some players to injury and not be voted anymore. Of course, the votes will be not Sunday anymore, but Wednesday when already need to be played the ASG!

Injured players still play in ASG don't they? I think I have came across such a situation before.

That said, I think adding a third game would be inline with how BB is working to cut down on short rosters. Yea I mean current a 7 man roster is not considered a short roster, but in professional leagues, people only do that in the playoffs. Over here, it's done all year long. With the ASG being held midseason, it actually discourages people to have anything beyond 8 players - because anything more and you risk having a player with worse optimal game shape. To make matters worse - fatigue sets in for older players. Hence I can't just play two lineups for 48 minutes in the week to have all 10 of my regulars get good game shape. If this isn't the BBs shooting themselves in the foot, idk what it is.

Of course it makes joy to me to use my default tactics. I am not so ambitious and winning at the moment time of person. I like to see the big picture - to develop my team as a whole and also my players. The results of matches are not the most important thing for me. Now it's interesting to collect money for building arena, to build some type of buildings and to make the team financially stable and after that maybe I will start to think more for tactics - at that moment I don't care so much and I don't want to care. It is also interesting just to train and develop my players and the possibility to go to U21 if I train them well. And I really HATE I have to change everything just for the all-star week ..it is pointless for me and I don't think even people which are complaining so much will loose something if we have 3 matches but everybody has his opinion of course. Also, for me it is interesting to terrorize in forum the Bulgarian U21/NT coaches to win something because trophy rooms are a little bit empty ..but it's maybe just some type of personal amusement :))) Anyway, I said that I don't have motivation to change my team conception for no-reason and to do things that I don't feel I want to do ...... forcing me to change conception makes me really angry. As you see, I have more motivation to try to change things in which I don't see the big purpose than to change conception in which I don't believe there is a clever reason to do it.

Also, 3 matches is just a possibility, it is not obligatory thing or something. The teams who prefer to play 2 matches only can play only 2 matches of course. You just have the possibility to choose your conception, I don't think somebody will loose so much....

EDIT: And don't forget that you already have the opportunity to change conception in the end of season and reorganize team and decide what fits you best during and after this off-season period. Second time during season is just useless.

Last edited by ogrizko at 3/24/2023 5:27:05 AM

I do not want to have good game shape only on 8 players. I want it on 10 or 11 players.

Idk what are you talking about, personally I just train 2x 2 players which play 48min every tíme and IT seems good

good for you but how does it relate to my answer to Phoenix about game shape of whole roster during ASW?

what if you train 6 young players 1 vs 1 or JS for guards or JS for forwards?

Gameshape still has big random ratio, my 18yo who played 37min has 8gameshape, second one played 33min and has 6.
You can have perfect minutes and your top pleayer couldn't reach 9 gameshape for few weeks.........