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From: Shawnas

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Date: 7/28/2010 2:31:42 PM
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I will reapeat. what is the difference when:

a) salaries 800k and income 800k. 3 prolific skills center costs 400k
b) salaries 200k and income 200k. 3 prolific skills center costs 100k

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152075.231 in reply to 152075.219
Date: 7/28/2010 2:38:33 PM
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I totaly disagry in that. What do you mean competetivity? if theres a league where everyone gets around 0, then the league where everyone earns 50k is less competetive or more? I think it is great that italian leagues are very competetive is great exacly for you guys - you do have more fun. what is fun to play in Canada, where Torroo dominates? I actually do not is how money injection can change anything. slowing training maybe. I think removing FA should fix economy, when for 3 season training you could afford to keep a solid player at least a season

From: Plotts

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Date: 7/28/2010 5:08:56 PM
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Not sure how that would work as far as an equation goes, but I also like the chem. idea. Post it in the suggestion forums if you already haven't.

I think it is virtually (get it?) impossible to keep every country on a level playing field as the previous poster suggested. I look at international competition as just a cool extra aspect of the game, with the true focus being on improving your team and succeeding in your own country.

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Date: 7/28/2010 5:15:14 PM
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I don't really like the first idea because of the training. What's the point of having bench players that the maximum salary that they can achieve is like 10k? Most of the teams would have only 1 player with more than 25k which would not be very good IMO. I mean this isn't the NBA.

The second idea with some adjustments is good. But 5M for promoting is way too much.

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Date: 7/28/2010 5:16:20 PM
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Well, in my opinion, Team Chemistry is a good idea but not that way. Team Chemistry can be used as a disadvantage for the day-traders. If the players are friends with each other (same nationality) or are in the team for a long period together (2-3 seasons) then the Team Chemistry is good (Spurs). However, if a team is day-trading all the time, the players can't get along each other and the chemistry is bad (Clippers).

From: ned

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152075.237 in reply to 152075.234
Date: 7/28/2010 5:27:32 PM
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I think it is virtually (get it?) impossible to keep every country on a level playing field as the previous poster suggested. I look at international competition as just a cool extra aspect of the game, with the true focus being on improving your team and succeeding in your own country.


I agree, it's hard to do that I don't want to discuss about a discussion borned in season 3 even if you must admit that to keep high the competition you need good players and if somone coming from Cayman Island decided to buy them we cannot do anything. Going back about today TL situation for sure there are a lot of factors linked to the economy but I think that BBs made a wrong calculation at the beginning of this season. I trained young players as SF not pushing a single skill and I had more or less 90k/week more as salary cost versus only +20k/week TV contract (my merch is frozen). I think to the teams that trained players with 100k/week salary, they for sure have a disadvantage compare to last season and some of them could lose moeny week by week.
This is not a problem per se, paying a player 100 or 1000 doesn't change a lot the economy but your biz plan is killed if for a lot of reasons the player goes from 100 to 1000 this season, then from 1000 to 333 next season and so on. My opinion is that in this moment we are waiting for a BBs intervention that will put more money on the system, if this will happen if you sell now without re-buy a player you will suffer a big loss

Last edited by ned at 7/28/2010 5:28:46 PM

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Date: 7/28/2010 5:37:54 PM
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Team chemistry, like said before would give an even higher advantage to older teams -> thus making catch up even harder than it is now. I believe that is not what BB's want to do. Day traders can be punished with more tax if needed.

From: Plotts

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Date: 7/28/2010 5:38:41 PM
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I agree. Selling a player only to sit on that money will cost you. But, I also feel it comes with the territory. For example, I promoted to DII last season, and bought 2 expensive players. Now, not if, but when I get relegated, they will sell for much, much cheaper and I will have lost money, but if I had promoted this year, I would be in a great position to stay up and have a good squad, so I think those players won't be complaining about the economy as much, as they got great value with their promotion money.

From: Kukoc

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Date: 7/28/2010 6:02:24 PM
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BB's wanted to avoid pouring more money into the system. When they did that we had crazy prices and going up. They needed to fix it and did, with bringing free agents back in, to take that excess money out of the system.
What would be the point of bringing that excess money into the system again? If you raise the income of all teams, then you still make less money than a team from Cayman Island. If that team "steals" a player from the transfer list, which actually was never your player to begin with, then you should stick to players you can buy, not worry about thouse you could not buy. I agree it's hard to buy players with near 0 balance, but if we raise your div income by 100k, then in a little while every team in your division has upgraded their players to be competitive and your salary total has raised by 100k. So in conclusion we would be in the same spot again. You writing in the forums how more money should be inserted in the system.
If we would give just the big countrys a significant raise on every level, then we ensure that no small country team can ever prevail in international competition. At the moment we can have any team from any country capable of getting to B3 level, it takes longer for teams in big countrys to get to that position, but EVERYONE can still get there. If you get to that level, it does not matter how much more money Cayman Island team makes in a week than you, why? because if he makes more, then his team is weaker, if he has the same level team then you actually are also on the same level in TL capabilitys, the additional merc income should somewhat balance his constant win record.
I have always said that you should train for your team, not for selling, that's how you can protect yourself from nasty surprises. There is a difference between can't sell and don't want to sell. You fall into that second category.
I find it surprising that a team that concentrates on Cup results (finals and semifinals last seasons), says he can't compete in his own league. Perhaps with concentrating on your league success you could have been back in the div1 by now?

Last edited by Kukoc at 7/28/2010 6:08:00 PM

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